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Postby Ozymandias » Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:03 am

I presume because you body can deal with it
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Postby Richard K Niner » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:36 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Ruedii-X+Dec 4 2004, 01:16 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ruedii-X @ Dec 4 2004, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> The most devistating acid is actually produced when your body doesn't get enough oxygen when exercising. This is called Lactic Acid, and is also produced by some forms of yeast.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Actually, the strongest acid is Hydrochloric acid, and is found in your stomache - it's used to dissolve the solid food. And of course, when you have an ulcer (allowing the HCl to leak out), the aforementioned acid is even <i>more</i> devastating than lactic acid.
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Postby Ozymandias » Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:22 pm

Is HCl the strongest? I thought H2SO4 was stronger?
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Postby Zylo » Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:40 pm

Actually H2ClO4 (I believe that's the correct formula) is the strongest. It's called perchloric acid. Of course, it's not produced in anyone's body; it would be devistating.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:42 pm

Hydrochloric acid is slightly stronger than sulphuric acid - primarily, though, because chlorine is more reactive than sulphate (it's close, though).
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Postby Henohenomoheji » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:16 pm

Copper dragons can breathe acid, but it says they're ground subtype.<br><br>Green dragons can breathe acid, but it says they're air subtype.<br><br>You will pour acid on me if I dont say something relevant fast.<br><br><br>...does the aformentioned acid talk of HCl in people's stomachs mean that throwing up on somebody would seriously hurt them?<br><br>Okay, I said something relevant! Happy?
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Postby Kles » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:44 pm

When you vomit, you don't kick out HCl. That would burn your tongue and throat up.<br><br>In other words; no, just gross them out.

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Postby Ozymandias » Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:54 pm

And the HCl in your stomach doesnt burn the rest of you because your liver produces bile to neutralise it.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:42 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Ozymandias+Dec 5 2004, 03:54 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ozymandias @ Dec 5 2004, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> And the HCl in your stomach doesnt burn the rest of you because your liver produces bile to neutralise it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Or because the stomach has a lining that doesn't let the HCl through. (The bile is what's used to neutralize it in vomit, though.)
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Postby Ozymandias » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:45 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 5 2004, 09:42 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 5 2004, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Ozymandias+Dec 5 2004, 03:54 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ozymandias @ Dec 5 2004, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> And the HCl in your stomach doesnt burn the rest of you because your liver produces bile to neutralise it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Or because the stomach has a lining that doesn't let the HCl through. (The bile is what's used to neutralize it in vomit, though.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> I was talking about when it left your stomach and got to tissues that don't have such a lining (i.e. ilieum, duodenum, colon, etc...)
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Postby Richard K Niner » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:47 pm

Hence the "Or" - I figured I'd just clarify the point. Sorry if it came across poorly... <!--emo&:unsure:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... unsure.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='unsure.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Postby Septimius Severus » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:28 am

The bile nuetralizes the HCl before it enters the small intestines, so that it doesn't screw up your blood chemistry. HCl in your stomach is never all that concentrated. Throwing up would (does) sting if you've just eaten something acidic, but it's not that bad. It's not like you have Alien Blood &#153; in you.<br><br><br>Sorry to crap all over this parade, but the original post of this thread is nonsense. Utter nonsense. Your body maintains itsself at the correct pH level, just like your temperature. This is like saying you should sleep in hot water to keep your body too hot for bacteria.<br><br><br>A strong acid is one where nearly 100% of the H+ ions are dissociated in water. A weak acid is one where nearly 100% are not dissocated. There is no in-between. If the H+ react with something to produce a precipitate, more H+ ion dissociate to maintain equilibrium. Therefore, the difference between strong and weak acids is really just reaction speed at equal concentrations. Acetic acid is what makes vinegar sour. Sulfuric acid is what you find in lead car batteries. Dilute sulfuric acid might turn your skin red over time. COncentrated sulfuric acid will boil if you stick your hand in it. Dilute acetic acid gives your salad a tangy zing. Glacial acetic acid (acetic acid dissolved by itsself, that is to say, anhydrous acetic acid is a fluid that will dissociate itsself) can eat your arm off.<br><br>
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Postby Ozymandias » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:52 pm

Strongest alkali likewise is when 100% of the OH- ions are dissociated in water etc.
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Postby Kles » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:33 pm

Hmm. I've actually been doing a bit more studying on it and I believe that Septimius is more correct; however I suppose it can never hurt to help it along, hmm? <!--emo&:P--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Postby Septimius Severus » Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:54 pm

Oh, indeed, eating fruits and vegetables will make you healthier and more resistant to disease, including cancer. It just has nothing to do with your pH.
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