If the furry subculture is all about the sex,

[Joe3210]

Then why am I so interested?<br><br>I know enough to know that porn/sex isn't a big deal in the culture, but I made the mistake of telling other people about me being furry. Now since their suitemates, they're trying to convert me back to being 'normal.' Even though liking the style of the art doesn't technically make me a furry, I didn't know that back then. Now I'm very much confused and angry over this situation.<br><br>I know most of you don't exactly know me that well, but I would like to at least get this out of my head.

[norsenerd]

You're friends dont; knwo what fury is. You can be furry wen you just "liking the style of the art." It depends on waht you consider yourself. Dont; let anyone give you clear cut definitions of that label. It's all up to you what to call yourself and it;s up to other peopel for waht they will call you. The label is of almsot compeltley zero improtance. The improtant thign is yourself. This means that your friedns have no right to make you "normal" or that you're interested in the yiff. Be yourself and be confidant in that. Once that is acheived then no other opinion aobut you realy matters.<br><br><a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2003/om20030508.html' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2003/om20030508.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /></a>

[Gizensha]

What norsenerd says is correct. To assign a more specific definition of furry than 'people with an interest in anthromorphic animals and who consider themselves to be furry' would be missing out certain individuals.<br><br>There is a single lable that is relevent to being yourself and ultimately being happy, in my view - "me". As long as you live up to that lable, and can always say "I am me", any other lable is simply there to help you describe yourself to other people, and find people who you get on with.

[Softpaw]

Furry is not "all about the sex". Period.

[Mista_B]

For me, it's a comfort and friendship thing. Sex/yiff stuff... well, that doesn't enter into it at all, at least not more than anything else in my life.<br><br>I suppose that's what it comes down to for me. Comfort, and a sense of "hey, that's pretty cool," or "I like these people," and "hmm, I can do this too!"<br><br>And all I've ever called myself, or labeled myself as, is Mista_B.<br><br>*shrug*<br><br>And every single damn "normal" I've ever come across, I've regarded as really freakin weird. Heh. Hell. That that how you will, I'm just me, and I'm happy with it, and if that's all I ever get, then that's fine too.

[Burning Sheep Productions]

That first post reminds me of an email sent to a furry hate site.<br>I've heard that the site was a mock-site but I haven't seen much evidence towards that.<br><br>I'd quote it but that quote bug is screwing with me...<br><br>The response to that email by the site master was "A++".<br>Gotta love keepin' stuff in perspective.<br><br><span style='color:#64008D'>Mod Note: Quote/attachment removed for language and inflammatory content.</span>

[Bocaj Claw]

Anxieties like that (and being too lazy to properly explain) is why I just tell people that my inner child likes cartoon animals and is holding a gun to my head.

[Steve the Pocket]

<!--QuoteBegin-Burning Sheep Productions+Nov 22 2005, 06:41 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Burning Sheep Productions @ Nov 22 2005, 06:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> That first post reminds me of an email sent to a furry hate site...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Ugh... I can't believe someone would do that. How some people think they can justify hurting someone just because of what they "do behind closed doors" is more disgusting than <i>any</i> of what could possibly be going on behind said doors. <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br><!--emo&:punk:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/punk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='punk.gif' /><!--endemo--> "Lemme at 'im, lemme at 'im!"

[Tavis]

What makes it even worse is that the person submitting the email, assuming that its contests are geniune (which cannot be verified here), did not ask, did not assume anything about his then-friend except what someone else who doesn't know him at all claims about him.<br><br>*sigh* If you fear being considered misunderstood by a label, by all means, don't use it unless you know it's with people that use the label exactly the way you do. I have no qualms with being called a furry because I read webcomics like "Ozy and Millie", I draw anthropomorphic characters and fan art, and I've even adopted one for myself online. Being furry is no more about sex than being human, being a sculptor, being a computer programmer, being a photographer, being a sports fan, or being a couch potato. Could there be some overlap between those and sex? Perhaps, but not necessarily.<br><br>Most people that know me know me well enough to learn to use me to describe the label instead of the other way around. The ones that don't know me well enough, or can't accept "furry" as the way I describe it... well, that's where I <i>can't</i> use a label. Instead, I have to just settle for saying what I am.<br><br>Anyway, I would have to say that your topic title is in error, because the premise is false. If there exists at least one subculture that is generally considered furry and is not about sex, then the furry subculture is <i>not</i> all about the sex. The Define 'Cynical' community contains a furry subculture, but that subculture is not about sex.

[Gizensha]

<!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Nov 22 2005, 06:35 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Nov 22 2005, 06:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Being furry is no more about sex than being human, being a sculptor, being a computer programmer, being a photographer, being a sports fan, or being a couch potato. Could there be some overlap between those and sex? Perhaps, but not necessarily. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> ...There are probably those that would argue that being human is all about sex, actually. Which, yes, is a very narrow view of human nature, but... It exists, and it's not only idiots who hold it. Though... Considering most that hold it believe Sigmond Freud, I might be mistaken there about it not only being idiots who hold it.<br><br>Drop the human due to the minor controvosy it could cause, and include other fandoms, and I think Joe has the perfect rebuttle to his suitemates there. And at the end of the day, I think that's what this thread might be about, him being tired of his suitemates telling him that it's all about sex when he knows it isn't.<br><br>But that's an assumption on my behalf.

[Burning Sheep Productions]

Yay for Tavis logic because it fits in ever so nicely with the concept of labels (and fixing up the quote <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> ).

[Rooster]

I'm a furry as I like animals, but not in a sexual way, and I've always wanted to be a wolf (I love them soooo much. But again, not in a sexual way)<br><br>I've never understood why people look at that stuff, it's like cartoon porn, but whatever. "It harms no-one, leave them be" is my motto.<br><br>I mean, the there are naked women (or men) just a click away <!--emo&:wag:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ailwag.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tailwag.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>But anyone who'd kick the living crud out of someone for being a "furry" obviously has a screw loose. Sounds like the crappy "Straight Edge" stuff that floats around the punk fans I sometimes find myself at shows with. I lit up a joint outside a venue once after a Lagwagon show and got laid out by some straight edgers for being an "emo stoner faggot" (their words as they kicked me in the back)<br><br>But I digress, this is about Furrydom, not stonerdom.<br><br>Anyway, some people have such closed minds that I'm amazed their brains learned human speech.

[Muninn]

The culture is not all about sex from what i've seen, but there are people that bring sex into it, not in a negative way always. I would imagine this is no different from other fandoms.<br><br>Though I can't really talk much about Furry culture. I read a few furry comics, look at a few pictures and that's it. I very rarely talk with other furies in chat and live too far away to attend any cons to socialise.<br><br>Just don't mind the haters too much who immediatly condemn you before knowing anything about you.

[BunnyBoy]

Now furry isn't about all about porn, or sex...<br><br>there is sex in certain parts of the fandom... and I'll admit I do enjoy some of the adult artwork. <br><br>It's like any fandom out there, there are several subcultures gathered together under one big tent and called a fandom. Some don't nessisarly mesh well, and there are members who tend to cxause friction between groups but nothing truly defines the fandom except by the one thing they all have in common there core. For furries thats an apreciation of anthro charactors. <br><br>Anime fandoms aren't defined by hentia, and Trekkies arn't defined by sex but there are portions of these fandoms that bring that into it.<br><br>Here is a pic I realy like, it's from an artist that does do primarily adult work (this one's not sexual, or voilent) <br><br><a href='http://www.soappuppy.com/gallery/gifs/jw-babysteps.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.soappuppy.com/gallery/gifs/j ... eps.jpg</a>

[Gizensha]

<!--QuoteBegin-Jacob+Nov 23 2005, 01:38 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Jacob @ Nov 23 2005, 01:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> The culture is not all about sex from what i've seen, but there are people that bring sex into it, not in a negative way always. I would imagine this is no different from other fandoms. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Funny you should mention that. There was a bondage workshop at the first (and so far only) sci-fi/fantasy con I went to. As well as a slash fiction panel. So yes, there are people in every fandom who bring sex into it.<br><br>And to BunnyBoy - yes. I do like that image. I believe you've linked to it on the IRT forum as well.