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Postby Gizensha » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:19 pm

Whenever I try and put a pound sign (as in the British unit of currancy) in a post, the post gets cut off just before the sign.<br><br>Using firefox 1.0.7 on Windows XP SP1 if it helps.
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Postby Softpaw » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:54 pm

I think we already determined that the board chokes on extended characters for some reason. Kinda sucks.

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Postby norsenerd » Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:27 am

It also does the same thign with the apostraphies of MS word.
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Postby Tavis » Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:45 pm

Yes, there are a number of problems like that... The bugs I am aware of involve:<br><br>Extra characters terminate posts prematurely. This is an especially bad problem when they appear in quotes, since the quote box doesn't get terminated properly and it messes up the rest of the page beyond that post.<br><br>Several types of pages fail to load, such as Report Post, My Controls, profile editing and Options, and profile viewing. Atempting to view them results in a totally blank page.

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Postby norsenerd » Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:58 am

I think this thread is more aobut hre character bug wich is a problem wiht the forum software unrelated to the other issues. That bug is not somehtign I think that we can fix.
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Postby Softpaw » Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:48 am

The forum software needs a reinstall of the main PHP files, and possibly a database rebuild. The issues we're seeing are the result of corruption somewhere. Problem is, only Simon has the necessary access to fix it.

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Postby Richard K Niner » Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:28 pm

In terms of the problem with characters, it may be a problem with PHP itself. I know that earlier versions of it are incapable of handling Unicode.<br><br>(Also, since when does PHP-based software need to be reinstalled? It's not like it needs some sort of registry, or changes the code beyond a few variables used to connect to the database.)
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Postby Softpaw » Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:18 pm

Reinstalled meaning non-corrupt versions of the forum files. Which I suggested because I'm not skilled enough to track down the problems in the code itself :-P<br><br>And I've never seen unicode issues on any other forum I work with[shrugs]

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Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:47 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-norsenerd+Nov 19 2005, 11:58 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (norsenerd @ Nov 19 2005, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> I think this thread is more aobut hre character bug wich is a problem wiht the forum software unrelated to the other issues.  That bug is not somehtign I think that we can fix.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Nov 20 2005, 08:28 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Nov 20 2005, 08:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> In terms of the problem with characters, it may be a problem with PHP itself. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I don't think so; look at Giz's sig for instance. That has characters that were entered normally at first, but somehow got corrupted when the board went back up. I think the Unicode decoding code (try saying that three times fast) is broken.

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Postby Richard K Niner » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:06 pm

Ummm... last I checked, Unicode-decoding was the web browser's responsibility.<br><br>*pauses for a moment, and checks the headers*<br><!--QuoteBegin-"DC's HTTP Header"+--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> ("DC's HTTP Header")</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>That's the problem in Giz's sig. (Server setting incorrect charset)<br>On the other hand, the board is unable to handle unicode when you're submitting a post. While I said that the problem was related to PHP (which only recently began supporting UTF-8), it may be specifically in the version of the PHP-MySQL interface, the version of MySQL, or the table definitions themselves (mysteriously dropping the UTF-8 optimization).
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Postby Gizensha » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:05 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Nov 21 2005, 11:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Nov 21 2005, 11:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Ummm... last I checked, Unicode-decoding was the web browser's responsibility.<br><br>*pauses for a moment, and checks the headers*<br><!--QuoteBegin-"DC's HTTP Header"+--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> ("DC's HTTP Header")</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>That's the problem in Giz's sig. (Server setting incorrect charset)<br>On the other hand, the board is unable to handle unicode when you're submitting a post. While I said that the problem was related to PHP (which only recently began supporting UTF-8), it may be specifically in the version of the PHP-MySQL interface, the version of MySQL, or the table definitions themselves (mysteriously dropping the UTF-8 optimization). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Yes, but I thought the pound sign was in extended ascii rather than in the sheer huge compositry of characters available in unicode.
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Postby Steve the Pocket » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:58 pm

This is making my head hurt.

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Postby Muninn » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:11 pm

Join the club.

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Postby Bocaj Claw » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:15 pm

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Postby Richard K Niner » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:22 pm

Yep. It's called the Club for People-with-Technological-Discussion-Induced-Headaches-and-Related-Ailments. I'm not a member, though. I'm in the Club for Technologically-Affinitive-Persons-who-Enjoy-Heated-Technological-Discussions-known-to-induce-Headaches-and-Related-Ailments.
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