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Postby Henohenomoheji » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:11 pm

and here I thought they were just labels for "uncooprative" students.<br><br>anyone else reminded of that one south park episode?
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Postby Amaroq » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:38 pm

Hmm...I recently found out that when I was quite young, I was diagnosed with either ADD or ADHD. My dad doesn't remember. I took ritalin, but he didn't like the side effects so he took me off of it. I'd have to go back to a doctor or whatever if I wanted it diagnosed again.<br><br>This...hyperfocus thing...I think I know what you mean. Does it have to be something you like to do? Because if it isn't I can't spare a second of attention for it. However, when I get a new game for example, I can play it all day and not eat until supper. I believe when I bought Unreal Tournament for our compy, I spent the better part of three years playing almost nothing but botmatches, since I only have 56k. When I found out how to use the game's level editor, UnrealEd2.0, I spent like, every day for a week or two making a map for it at a time...uh...what was I gonna say...blagh<br><br><!--QuoteBegin-dcsimpson+Mar 23 2005, 07:54 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (dcsimpson @ Mar 23 2005, 07:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Trance+Mar 24 2005, 12:16 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Trance @ Mar 24 2005, 12:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> If one has patience, yes. But if one has ADD, <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>like Millie,</span> then it's a bit difficult.  <!--emo&:P--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>That's a common misconception about ADD. ADD sufferers, like myself, sometimes get into hyperfocus mode, and can spend hours doing something without really even noticing. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Oh, and is this confirmation that Millie actually does have ADD? I thought it was just speculation.

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Postby Amaroq » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:41 pm

EDIT: Ack, can a mod delete this post please?

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Postby dcsimpson » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:02 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Henohenomoheji+Mar 24 2005, 05:11 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Henohenomoheji @ Mar 24 2005, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> and here I thought they were just labels for "uncooprative" students.<br><br>anyone else reminded of that one south park episode? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> No, no, it's quite legitimate.<br><br>The South Park episode raised valid concerns to a certain extent--ADHD can be overdiagnosed, and it's a mistake to think even in legitimate cases that ADHD kids can just take a pill and become "normal." But recall that no one in the episode, even Chef, denies that the condition exists in some kids.<br><br>It also mischaracterizes what ritalin does. It's a stimulant, not a sedative. It's actually a mild form of speed. I was on it for a year, myself, when I was 18; I got straight A's that year, for the first time since middle school, but took myself off it after a year because it was also giving me mood swings. Like any drug, it can be helpful but it can also mess with your brain chemistry.<br><br>These days, I "treat" my ADHD, which sometimes is a good thing (I can sit and draw cartoons for five hours at a stretch, if I get in the hyperfocus zone), just by understanding my strengths and weaknesses and structuring my time in a way that takes them into account. They say adults with ADHD ought to be self-employed, but also ought to have rigid deadlines. So actually, my job is ideal. <!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Postby Gizensha » Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:38 am

<!--QuoteBegin-dcsimpson+Mar 24 2005, 11:02 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (dcsimpson @ Mar 24 2005, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Henohenomoheji+Mar 24 2005, 05:11 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Henohenomoheji @ Mar 24 2005, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> and here I thought they were just labels for "uncooprative" students.<br><br>anyone else reminded of that one south park episode? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>No, no, it's quite legitimate.<br><br>The South Park episode raised valid concerns to a certain extent--ADHD can be overdiagnosed, and it's a mistake to think even in legitimate cases that ADHD kids can just take a pill and become "normal." But recall that no one in the episode, even Chef, denies that the condition exists in some kids.<br><br>It also mischaracterizes what ritalin does. It's a stimulant, not a sedative. It's actually a mild form of speed. I was on it for a year, myself, when I was 18; I got straight A's that year, for the first time since middle school, but took myself off it after a year because it was also giving me mood swings. Like any drug, it can be helpful but it can also mess with your brain chemistry.<br><br>These days, I "treat" my ADHD, which sometimes is a good thing (I can sit and draw cartoons for five hours at a stretch, if I get in the hyperfocus zone), just by understanding my strengths and weaknesses and structuring my time in a way that takes them into account. They say adults with ADHD ought to be self-employed, but also ought to have rigid deadlines. So actually, my job is ideal. <!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Mmhm. I've never doubted ADHD is legitimate, just the amount of kids that get diagnosed with it. As in, I'm quite certain that the recent figures of something stupid like one in five are complete bunk.<br><br>All kids are hyperactive. This makes diagnosis of ADHD awkward.
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Postby Arloest » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:16 am

My trig teacher has ADD. Fun.
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Postby VisibilityMissing » Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:32 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Arloest+Mar 25 2005, 01:16 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Arloest @ Mar 25 2005, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> My trig teacher has ADD. Fun. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> That's not surprising. From my experience, many math and science teachers are eccentric in one way or another. <br><br>*ahem*<br><br>But not me, no . . .
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Postby Gizensha » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:18 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-VisibilityMissing+Mar 25 2005, 01:32 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (VisibilityMissing @ Mar 25 2005, 01:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Arloest+Mar 25 2005, 01:16 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Arloest @ Mar 25 2005, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> My trig teacher has ADD. Fun. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>That's not surprising. From my experience, many math and science teachers are eccentric in one way or another. <br><br>*ahem*<br><br>But not me, no . . . <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Psh no. Only the good ones are <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>Ranging from "Get off my squidgy things" (in reference to some form of scientific apparatus or another.) through to having a sixth form student hang from a door frame by his fingers in order to demonstrate something to do with gravity.... He also once demonstrated three meters per second by running with a meter rule. That was... Odd... to someone who would be distracted if teaching in a technology room instead of a maths room and basically start playing with vices.<br><br>All my good science and math teachers have been eccentric in some way shape or another, I think.
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