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Postby Kles » Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:21 am

Okay, I assume all of you know this but incase you don't I should define it right now;<br><br>pH SCALE:<br>ACIDIC...................................ALKALINE (aka BASIC)<br>1-----------------------------7-----------------------------14<br><br>Blood's natural pH level: 7.35<br>pH level in which you die if your blood reaches: 7.2<br><br>Eat some fruits and vegetables! They alkalize your blood increasing the pH. If your blood pH hits lower then 7.2, you just don't drop dead. The blood will take some alkaline ash from your cells to raise the level of pH in it. However, since they take some alkaline from the cells, the cells become more acidic. Cells become diseased when their pH level is below 7, which, is considered totally neutral on the pH scale. If you have a cell with a higher pH of 7, it will be fine.<br><br>In short: if you maintain a pH level in your body above 7, YOU CANNOT GET SICK! (Viruses don't count, those things screw with you no matter what.)<br><br>Lets look at something different then. Lets say you have a cell well below 7. Let's say 5, with an average body pH of 7.03, which is right on the brink of healthiness. Cells die at 3.5, but in the meantime, they do whatever they can to stay alive. So will humans! If we are threatened with death, won't we do whatever we can to pull ourselves out? Cells, what they'll do is they'll take alkaline from local cells. What does this do? Makes other cells acidic. These cells repeat the process until a whole whack of them are sick. The process repeats. There's a more well known term for this: cancer. So, in short, Fruits and vegetables can actually stop most kinds of cancer. There's still testicular cancer and the like which can be caused by viruses and whatnot but that's totally different. <br><br>I didn't know this. Good to know kind of stuff, isn't it? I'm not a very healthy eater right now but I think I'll soon become one.<br><br>Table for food: <a href='http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/acidalkfoods.html' target='_blank'>http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/acidalkfoods.html</a>

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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:45 am

Hrmm... I shall remember this and pass it on.<br>I like the idea of not being able to get sick, that'd be awesome.
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Postby likeafox » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:42 pm

According to that the ideal diet is 75 percent alkalizing and 25 percent acidifying.<br><br>*looks at his mac & cheese*<br><br>Hmm...<br>pasta... acidifying<br>cheese... acidifying<br>milk... acidifying<br>butter... acidifying<br><br>*pours on four bottles of ketchup to balance it out*

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Postby Zylo » Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:34 pm

Yeahh.......by that logic, I should already be dead.
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Postby Steve the Pocket » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:39 pm

Hmmm, didn't realize fruit had so much alkalinity. I woulda thought...since it's always a little bit sour...it would be slightly acidic. Hmmm.

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Postby Zaaphod » Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:18 am

Hmm, interesting...<br>
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Postby MidnightRealism » Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:09 am

<!--QuoteBegin-DraganFox+Nov 28 2004, 04:34 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (DraganFox @ Nov 28 2004, 04:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Yeahh.......by that logic, I should already be dead. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> Me too.

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Postby Holyman83 » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:54 pm

*turns into a vampire Fox and start sucking the all the blood that is below 7.2*<br><br>I dont like acidic blood it give me indigestion
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Postby erikbarrett » Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:30 am

Hmm... well, I'm not aware of many people getting sick due to having a low pH cell count. I would recommend eating a balanced, healthy diet anyways, which would include many fruits and vegetables reguardless.<br><br>Relying on the information that I'm aware of - which is very limited, mind you - the only time that I'm aware of a serious pH imbalance in the body is during times of extreme stress on the respiratory system, known as high altitude sickness. Actually, the primary cause of high altitude deaths is not lack of oxygen, but a fatal decrease of the body's pH.
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Postby Ruedii-X » Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:16 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Kles+Nov 28 2004, 05:21 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Kles @ Nov 28 2004, 05:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Eat some fruits and vegetables! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Not if they're cooked to mush I won't.<br><br>Why do you think Millie hates them?! They have to be treated with respect, you got to cook them right!!!<br><br><!--QuoteBegin-Burning Sheep Productions Posted on Nov 28 2004+ 06:45 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Burning Sheep Productions Posted on Nov 28 2004 @ 06:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Hrmm... I shall remember this and pass it on.<br>I like the idea of not being able to get sick, that'd be awesome.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well that's a bit oversimplified, but generally true. Keep in mind it's not the alkalinity of the item, but how it effects your body. Also, being short of any nutriant is very detrimental, but antioxidents, and other key fruit and vegitable nuetriants are far more important to keep stable over short periods of time.<br><br>Most nuetriants are salts, or basic organic components by the time they reach your bloodstream, no matter what Ph they are. However, most cell breakdown produces acidic compounds, and only aerobic muscle activity, and the rest is done by removing acids from the body, contructing new materials with them, requiring other key compounds, or producing a compound that nuetralizes them, by destroying more cells to get the materials. <br><br>The most devistating acid is actually produced when your body doesn't get enough oxygen when exercising. This is called Lactic Acid, and is also produced by some forms of yeast. However, your body normally can dispose of this properly, by either converting it back or disposing it. Just so long as you don't exceed what your body can handle.

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Postby ShadOtterdan » Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:44 pm

Looks like trying to cut out acid takes out many staples, it looks like most wheat based stuff and milk is gone, so there goes my cereal, and all the meat is acidic, can't have that, but at least I get to eat plenty of fruit.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:19 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-ShadOtterdan+Dec 4 2004, 07:44 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (ShadOtterdan @ Dec 4 2004, 07:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Looks like trying to cut out acid takes out many staples, it looks like most wheat based stuff and milk is gone, so there goes my cereal, and all the meat is acidic, can't have that, but at least I get to eat plenty of fruit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Bear in mind that fruits have ascorbic acid (and, in the case of citrus fruits, citric acid).
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Postby Ozymandias » Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:43 pm

Beat me to it, Richard.<br><br>And just for the record, we humans don't have cell walls.<br><br>I'm gonna take this with a pinch of salt seeing as they put vinegar in alkalising...
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Postby Richard K Niner » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:12 am

Oranges are listed as alkalizing as well, and their pH is lower than vinegar (3.00 vs. 4.75). Either way, that list has problems: either it is completely wrong, or there are some <i>ad hoc</i> rules I don't know about - a sign that the information is not an IBE (inference to best explanation).
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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:58 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Ruedii-X+Dec 4 2004, 04:16 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ruedii-X @ Dec 4 2004, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> ...The most devistating acid is actually produced when your body doesn't get enough oxygen when exercising. This is called Lactic Acid... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> I never knew it was a really bad acid... then how come your muscles don't get eaten away after a 400m sprint?
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