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Do Ufos and aliens exist?

Yes
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No
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I don't know
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I don't care
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Postby Segovia » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:36 pm

A continuation to my locked thread about ghosts, only this time its extra terrestrials. Discuss anything that has to do with ET or UFOs in general.

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Postby Æron » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:04 pm

"UFO's" exist, in the sense that there are objects/atmospheric phenomenon that people see which they were not able to identify. If you're using the popular misuse of the term, which associates UFO's with flying saucers and alien spaceships exclusively, then no.

Extraterrestrials may or may not exist, but they have not visited earth and do not abduct people in their sleep or whatever nutbars are spouting happened to them.

So my answer would be Yes*****
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Postby nickspoon » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:13 pm

It is impossible to know for sure but, given the vast magnitude of the universe it doesn't take a great stretch of the imagination to think that there's probably a planet somewhere out there which produced life.
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Postby Segovia » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:15 pm

I do believe that there has to be some kind of life out there. To me it's kind of egotistical to think that we are the only ones out there.

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Postby gforce422 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:23 pm

I've seen a UFO. \o/
It looked like a glowing sphere, and it was roughly three times as bright as the nearest planet. It rose slowly up into the sky, paused for a sec, and then disappeared. It was pretty cool.

A co-worker of mine has seen a UFO too, though she said this one was actually a "spaceship" of sorts. She was at a party with a bunch of friends, and they all saw it. She said it was hovering, and while they were looking at it, it "got really big, almost like it zoomed in on us" and then disappeared.

I asked her if they had been taking any drugs. She claimed she wasn't. :P
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Postby Segovia » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:31 pm

Thank you for sharing Gforce

Anyway I guess that I'll open up with some videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptMb2t89 ... r_embedded

This one is from England

If you want my comments I say it's legit for a couple of reasons.

1) you can hear more than one person commenting on the site which concludes that it actually had to be there and not some effect.

2) It had to been at a distace because the object moved behind the phone wires which can be concluded that it's not an effect and is not some illusion on the camera.

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Postby RocketGirl » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:43 pm

Statistically speaking, if there isn't life elsewhere in the universe, I'll be very, very, VERY surprised.
...but if it's visiting this planet, I'll be similarly surprised, also statistically speaking.

Now, I HAVE seen something very strange up in the sky, back in the summer of, hmmm...'81 or '82, I can't remember which. But it didn't look like a solid object.
Picture a nickel held at arm's length; that's roughly the size of what I'm about to describe. It looked like nothing so much as a bullseye made out of starlight: there was a dot, and a ring around that, and a third ring around that.
Now picture three of those arranged up in the sky like an equilateral triangle, spread wayyyyyyy apart, taking up perhaps a sixth of the sky if one were to fill that triangle in.
I saw this on a beach in Cape Cod, with not a cloud in the sky, no noise, no missing time, no nuffin'...they just hung up there, not moving. Very, very odd; to this day I have no idea whatinhell I saw, but the memory has stayed with me.
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Postby RocketGirl » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:47 pm

Anyway I guess that I'll open up with some videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptMb2t89 ... r_embedded

If you want my comments I say it's legit for a couple of reasons.

1) you can hear more than one person commenting on the site which concludes that it actually had to be there and not some effect.
It means nothing of the kind; those voices could be recorded later by people pulling a prank. We never once see any of the people talking...and even if we had, that doesn't make this not a hoax, since they could all be in on it. It wouldn't be the first time.
2) It had to been at a distace because the object moved behind the phone wires which can be concluded that it's not an effect and is not some illusion on the camera.
Are you kidding?
I could do that in a couple of hours right on this laptop with software I've already got loaded. 3D Studio MAX plus Adobe Premiere equals Instant UFOs if I really wanted.
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Postby nickspoon » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:19 pm

There was a program on a while back with a segment about making a convincing UFO video by flinging a circular pizza box from a balcony. The resulting footage, adjusted for blurriness (like all good UFO videos) looked pretty realistic.

The likelihood of aliens both finding and then reaching us is extremely slim. Space is mind-bogglingly vast and travel at speeds faster than light is, as far as we know, impossible; thus any life-form out there sufficiently advanced for space travel is highly unlikely to visit us. Couple that with how UFOs are nearly always seen by unreliable witnesses, and it leads one to believe that the only extraterrestrial visitors to Earth have been in the form of large lumps of rock.
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Postby gforce422 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:45 pm

Haha, that looks exactly like what I saw. :lol:
Except there was only one and mine was was rising straight up into the air.
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-He joined the IRC sometimes. But not enough, I say! Chat moar =D
-He is evidently only 18 year old but he could easily pass for 25. =D
-He is a drummer like *I* am and this in itself is cool.
Astro> gforce's smiles can cure cancer in kittens
Astro> the happiness radiating from your person is enough to solve tensor calculus
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Postby Segovia » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:57 pm

There's good evidence that Ufos have visited us in the past. My friend told me that he saw on the history channel that the acient egytian heiroglyphs showed beings flying in the air in space crafts. The gods that they worshiped had large and oval heads.

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Postby nickspoon » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:53 pm

Those pictures could be of all manner of things. It's hardly implausible that they were made up - I mean, the ancients invented many fictitious beings. And the image that looks like a spaceship? Given the sheer number of pictographic engravings which ancient peoples made, it's hardly surprising that one of them looks a bit like a spaceship.

You need to change your definition of 'good evidence'.
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Postby Dr. Sticks » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:18 am

as for the hieroglyphs of helicopters and land-speeders, they were actually caused by people marking out old inscriptions and writing new ones on top.

as for cover-ups, it's rather obvious that the government pretends to get super pissed off at ex-agents that leak information about aliens, so that people don't pay attention to their military tests. a weather balloon? unlikely. an alien space craft? even less likely. a test on whether we can give the russians herpes by poisoning their drinking water? pretty likely.
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Postby Dr. Dos » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:00 am

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Postby Baconsticks » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:20 am

If there is life out there, it's not anything we are going to recognize. Aliens wouldn't look Humanoid at all. They would probably look more like Solaris, or something.
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