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To hurt, or not to hurt?

Punch to the face?(Very satisfying, but will likely end in suspension on my part, but afterwards I may have the plus of having the teachers have to keep us at least 25 feet away from the other.)
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20%
Kick to the nuts? (Even more painful, but not as satisfying.)
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10%
Launch myself upon him in a frenzy that can only be satisfied by blood? (I've known him for 3 years now and he isn't any better than when I first met him.)
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Hire someone? (Not nearly as satisfying, but less chance of getting suspended.)
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No votes
Do nothing? (Self control?)
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70%
 
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Postby A dude named Vince » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:55 pm

Today in marching band practice, I saw one of the people I like the least in my school go up to one of my friends, and do this thing he calls "gleaning." I don't know if that's an actual word, but he basicaly spit in his face, and my friend did nothing. If he had spit in my face, I'm afraid I would have to at least get one good punch to the face, I don't care if he's about 50 lbs heavier then me, you can't do much with a broken nose. I admire my friend's self control, and when I told my dad about it he told me about the "To Kill a Mockingbird" scene where the layer is also gets spit on the face. My friend isn't afraid to stand up to himself, either. Hell, he's taller than him, the other guy is just an overconfident asshole. If someone were to spit in my face do you think I should take it and walk away, or seek retribution? I hear it hurts bad if you punch the upper lip really hard because of some nerves located right there or something like that.... Anyway, opinions? Be honest please. Also, he's the person who calls things he dosn't like/understand queer. He's said that about 100 times this year already.
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Postby Tom Flapwell » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:00 am

Dude, it's not a choice between some form of violence and doing "nothing." You can tell an authority about it. Maybe the guy's parents.

Failing that, you could try blackmail. Say, there's a technique Ozy never tried....
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Postby datherman » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:01 am

Regardless of what happens, I believe it would be best to restrain yourself. Talk to the band director afterward, get him kicked out of band, whatever. But punching people like that doesn't make them change, it only makes them mad at you. There are other, better ways of getting back at someone without resorting to violence.

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Postby A dude named Vince » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:11 am

Dude, it's not a choice between some form of violence and doing "nothing." You can tell an authority about it. Maybe the guy's parents.

Failing that, you could try blackmail. Say, there's a technique Ozy never tried....
His dad dosn't like me.
Regardless of what happens, I believe it would be best to restrain yourself. Talk to the band director afterward, get him kicked out of band, whatever. But punching people like that doesn't make them change, it only makes them mad at you. There are other, better ways of getting back at someone without resorting to violence.
I know hurting him wouldn't make him change, but I'm thinking it would encourage him from trying anything. Also, a important point I left out, I might not be strong enough and he may get back up and bad stuff would ensue, or I may actually break his nose and get sued or something like that.

Apparently a lot of you think I shouldn't hurt him. I'll keep that in mind if he ever tries anything.
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Postby gforce422 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:39 am

Think about it this way:

If someone spit in your face, it would take an enormous amount of guts to not retaliate, more so than it would take to flatten his face. Think about it. Is it easier to fight back or to stand your ground and take it? By not attacking him, you are proving yourself braver than he is. When he picks on people who are smaller/not as "equipped" as he is, he is being a coward.Remember that.
(that said, you need to take this with a grain of salt. If he starts attacking you/threatening your life, you have every reason in the world to defend yourself. If it's not life threatining, though, don't retaliate. It'll give him a feeling of power and make things much worse.)


Another note: You and this student are basically equals in the school community ladder/chain. You need to go to someone who has authority/power to adaquately deal with the situation at hand. If that fails, go to your dad, and ask him to go with you to talk to the dude's dad. In summary, in this case it is best not to take matters into your own hands. As satisfying as it may seem in the beginning, it will only open up a world of trouble.

And that's me two cents. :)
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Postby Mista_B » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:41 am

By not attacking him, you are proving yourself braver than he is.
However, by doing nothing to prevent future attacks, you're effectivly condoning and aiding his behavior.

Escalate this. Go to the teacher, if he does nothing, go to the principal, if he does nothing, call the police and report witnessing an assualt, give them the name of the person who did the spitting.
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Postby Arloest » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:46 am

Kill it with fire.
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Postby gforce422 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:54 am

By not attacking him, you are proving yourself braver than he is.
However, by doing nothing to prevent future attacks, you're effectivly condoning and aiding his behavior.

Escalate this. Go to the teacher, if he does nothing, go to the principal, if he does nothing, call the police and report witnessing an assualt, give them the name of the person who did the spitting.
:? Darnit, I should've been more clear. I just meant for Vince not to resort to physical violence, NOT to not do anything about the situation.
But yeah, Vince, Mr B's advice is good.
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-He made the absolute nicest comments about me in the other topic. I didn't respond to them yet, because I suck, but they are greatly appreciated! =D
-I would say he would also be a good runner up as one of the nicest people alive.
-He joined the IRC sometimes. But not enough, I say! Chat moar =D
-He is evidently only 18 year old but he could easily pass for 25. =D
-He is a drummer like *I* am and this in itself is cool.
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Postby klimt » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:29 am

i would have laughed in his face, wiped it off on his shirt and went back to what i was doing like he didnt even exist.


not worth real physical violence though.
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Postby Arloest » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:40 am

What you SHOULD do is give him a big kiss if he does that. On the mouth. He'll be so scarred he'll never do it again.
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Postby Uzi4U » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:41 am

I don't know, really. But, if you need to defend yourself, go ahead.
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Postby Tom Flapwell » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:24 am

Then there's the obvious: Spit right back. Just do what he does.
What you SHOULD do is give him a big kiss if he does that. On the mouth.
Hm, that's another way to swap spit, but... ew.
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Postby osprey » Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:26 am

In all honesty, I would punch him.
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