Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize

[TyVulpine]

I'd love to know who Al or the DNP bribed to get the Prize...

[Comrade K]

I'd love to know who Al or the DNP bribed to get the Prize...

I dunno, but I guess they're finally learning from the opposition.

[Zaaphod]

I'd love to know who Al or the DNP bribed to get the Prize...

Of course, Al gave them the Internet. Same as us.

[Rooster]

Is that the reward he got for killing Manbearpig?

[Niko123000]

Is that the reward he got for killing Manbearpig?

I can not TELL you how many times I heard that in school.

And my Environmental science teacher brought this up in school today. He asked us why we thought he got it. None of us except one could get the answer he was looking for.

The Answer? Global warming is a Global factor. But, the end of it can really only be achieved if all countries can agree on the subject of what to do, and not fight over what is right and wrong. Not saying any are, but Global warming is also only a luxury those who don't worry about dieing the next day can worry about. Places like Darfor can't worry about this, since they worry about dying. They'd need to have peace before they can worry, and all countries need to...

So... he got it in his theory... I guess... I dunno, I was drawing during the class.

[Muninn]

As important as climate change and ways to possibly counteract said change is, I'm not completely sure what it has to do with peace.

[Angstwolf]

1. Gore's accomplishments are pretty minor. If championing a useful cause and raising public awareness is all it takes to win the Prize, it becomes a meaningless prize based on the political wind of the moment.
2. Global warming is the stupidest politico-scientific bandwagon in the history of the world. Even if we somehow miraculously eliminated half our CO2 emissions, the effect on the earth's natural cooling/warming cycles would be minimal.

Despite my being a Democrat for the most part, I agree with both of these points (unless I'm misinterpreting point two). However, I'm not going to argue it here because I'll just get gang raped if I do.

I've said this before. Global warming is not, in my mind, the huge catastrophe that sensationalists try to make it out to be. It is something that needs to be looked at and dealt with like every other problem humanity has caused. Regardless of how much pollution is or is not warming the earth, pollution is bad and we need to fix it. We just don't need to cause mass panic over it.

[TyVulpine]

Not to mention, that the Earth used to be as warm- if not warmer- now it was during the dinosaur era. Species come and go, the Earth goes through ice ages and heat waves, and droughts. It's a natural cycle. So proving global warming is tough to do.

[CameronCN]

A radiocarbon-dated box core in the Sargasso Sea shows that the sea surface temperature was approximately 1°C cooler than today approximately 400 years ago (the Little Ice Age) and 1700 years ago, and approximately 1°C warmer than today 1000 years ago (the Medieval Warm Period).

Description of the Little Ice Age following the Medieval Warming Period:

The Little Ice Age brought bitterly cold winters to many parts of the world, but is most thoroughly documented in Europe and North America. In the mid-17th century, glaciers in the Swiss Alps advanced, gradually engulfing farms and crushing entire villages. The River Thames and the canals and rivers of the Netherlands often froze over during the winter, and people skated and even held frost fairs on the ice. The first Thames frost fair was in 1607; the last in 1814, although changes to the bridges and the addition of an embankment affected the river flow and depth, hence the possibility of freezes. The freeze of the Golden Horn and the southern section of the Bosphorus took place in 1622. The winter of 1794/95 was particularly harsh when the French invasion army under Pichegru could march on the frozen rivers of the Netherlands, whilst the Dutch fleet was fixed in the ice in Den Helder harbour. In the winter of 1780, New York Harbor froze, allowing people to walk from Manhattan to Staten Island. Sea ice surrounding Iceland extended for miles in every direction, closing that island's harbors to shipping.

The severe winters affected human life in ways large and small. The population of Iceland fell by half, but this was perhaps also due to fluorosis caused by the eruption of the volcano Laki in 1783 [2]. The Viking colonies in Greenland died out (in the 15th century) because they could no longer grow enough food there. In North America, American Indians formed leagues in response to food shortages [4].

"In many years, snowfall was much heavier than recorded before or since, and the snow lay on the ground for many months longer than it does today [3]." Many springs and summers were outstandingly cold and wet, although there was great variability between years and groups of years. Crop practices throughout Europe had to be altered to adapt to the shortened, less reliable growing season, and there were many years of death and famine (such as the Great Famine of 1315-1317, although this may have been before the LIA proper). Viticulture entirely disappeared from some northern regions. Violent storms caused massive flooding and loss of life. Some of these resulted in permanent losses of large tracts of land from the Danish, German, and Dutch coasts [4].

The extent of mountain glaciers had been mapped by the late 19th century. In both the north and the south temperate zones of our planet, snowlines (the boundaries separating zones of net accumulation from those of net ablation) were about 100 m lower than they were in 1975 [5]. In Glacier National Park, the last episode of glacier advance came in the late 18th and early 19th century [6]. In Chesapeake Bay, Maryland, large temperature excursions during the Little Ice Age (~1400–1900 AD) and the Medieval Warm Period (~800–1300 AD) possibly related to changes in the strength of North Atlantic thermohaline circulation [7].

In Ethiopia and Mauritania, permanent snow was reported on mountain peaks at levels where it does not occur today. Timbuktu, an important city on the trans-Saharan caravan route, was flooded at least 13 times by the Niger River; there are no records of similar flooding before or since. In China, warm weather crops, such as oranges, were abandoned in Jiangxi Province, where they had been grown for centuries. In North America, the early European settlers also reported exceptionally severe winters. For example, in 1607-1608 ice persisted on Lake Superior until June [8].

Antonio Stradivari, the famous violin maker, produced his instruments during the LIA. It has been proposed that the colder climate caused the wood used in his violins to be denser than in warmer periods, contributing to the tone of Stradivari's instruments[9].

The Little Ice Age (Basic Books, 2000), by anthropology professor Brian Fagan of the University of California at Santa Barbara, tells of the plight of European peasants during the 1300 to 1850 chill: famines, hypothermia, bread riots, and the rise of despotic leaders brutalizing an increasingly dispirited peasantry. In the late 17th century, writes Fagan, agriculture had dropped off so dramatically that “Alpine villagers lived on bread made from ground nutshells mixed with barley and oat flour.â€

[Rooster]

So the world gets warmer?

I'm from Wales. Bring it on.

[Arloest]

So the world gets warmer?

I'm from Houston. NOOOO D:

Fact: The Earth does, indeed, go through natural heating/cooling cycles.

Fact: The Earth is currently heating unnaturally fast.

Fact: In the late 19th/early 20th centuries, the pollution from coal plants were, indeed, much worse than that of the pollution caused by modern plants.

Fact: Those said coal plants were much more localized than the number of modern plants we have now.

Fact: It has been proven that the C02 levels in the atmosphere does correlate with the Earth's temperature.

Fact: Humans only contribute less than 3% of the C02 in the atmosphere.

Fact: We still contribute.

[Muninn]

Whether a drastic change is occuring or not we still need to develop alternative sources of obtaining our energy. Fossil fuels are finite and we should have viable alternatives ready even if we won't feel the effects of dropping fuel resources for a long time yet.

[Bocaj Claw]

However, I'm not going to argue it here because I'll just get gang raped if I do.

Oh javs! This is a friendly forum, we won't gang rape you

Obviously we'd take turns you silly person.

[Loeln]

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/b ... 633838.ece

The drying of Lake Chad, the loss of Mount Kilimanjaro’s snows and Hurricane Katrina were all blamed by Mr Gore on climate change but the judge said the scientific community had been unable to find evidence to prove there was a direct link.

The melting of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro was “mainly attributable to human-induced climate changeâ€

[TravisFox]

Regardless of how much pollution is or is not warming the earth, pollution is bad and we need to fix it. We just don't need to cause mass panic over it.

Which is why over extending the Global Warming issue is moronic. It gives people who don't believe in global warming "license" to continue their "wasteful" lives.