Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize
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Republicans are at odds with pretty much every widely respected group other than their party these days. Mainstream scientists, the UN, PBS, the Academy of Motion Pictures, the Nobel peeps... Their only consolation is that they still rule more than half the Federal Government.
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Yes they are. What does that have to do with anything?Republicans are at odds with pretty much every widely respected group other than their party these days. Mainstream scientists, the UN, PBS, the Academy of Motion Pictures, the Nobel peeps... Their only consolation is that they still rule more than half the Federal Government.
The reason for my reaction is thus:
1. Gore's accomplishments are pretty minor. If championing a useful cause and raising public awareness is all it takes to win the Prize, it becomes a meaningless prize based on the political wind of the moment.
2. Global warming is the stupidest politico-scientific bandwagon in the history of the world. Even if we somehow miraculously eliminated half our CO2 emissions, the effect on the earth's natural cooling/warming cycles would be minimal.
I just don't have much respect for an award given to someone just because he's a visible figure in a current cause celebre. If he'd really done something worth earning a Nobel (even if I thought said cause futile and misguided), then it wouldn't bother me at all.
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*Unnatural warming/cooling2. Global warming is the stupidest politico-scientific bandwagon in the history of the world. Even if we somehow miraculously eliminated half our CO2 emissions, the effect on the earth's natural cooling/warming cycles* would be minimal**
**Immediate effects.

Asuna Kagurazaka, Negima Magister Nyoro~nEgi Magi
I agree to some extent that Gore doesn't deserve a Nobel prize for what he's done, as there are countless others who've worked hard, but just not as publicly, to get their message out there.
However, I definitely do not feel that global warming is some "bandwagon". I mean, in USan lands, it seems taboo to not be totally partisan, and whatever party x says is what all it's constituents convince themselves is true. Here, all the parties are trying to change things for the better, in different ways of course, but they all admit there's a problem.
I can see the effects of global warming in the recent local weather patterns myself, as can practically every scientist ever (apart from a few, well-funded former tobacco lobbyist scientists, fancy meeting them here...), and I think that we should strive to make a difference, and not wait to find out if the scientists were right. Pollution isn't much good in any form anyway.
I mean, it's obvious global warming is being politicked by many more left leaning parties and governments, but I think there's infinitely more value in combating climate change than hunting for terrorist witches, the conservative cause celebre.
However, I definitely do not feel that global warming is some "bandwagon". I mean, in USan lands, it seems taboo to not be totally partisan, and whatever party x says is what all it's constituents convince themselves is true. Here, all the parties are trying to change things for the better, in different ways of course, but they all admit there's a problem.
I can see the effects of global warming in the recent local weather patterns myself, as can practically every scientist ever (apart from a few, well-funded former tobacco lobbyist scientists, fancy meeting them here...), and I think that we should strive to make a difference, and not wait to find out if the scientists were right. Pollution isn't much good in any form anyway.
I mean, it's obvious global warming is being politicked by many more left leaning parties and governments, but I think there's infinitely more value in combating climate change than hunting for terrorist witches, the conservative cause celebre.

Gore is a politician, not a scientist. It's not an issue of who has the best judgement--Gore's claims are obviously out of line with respective scientific evidence. He exaggerated, just like Bush did over Iraq's WMDs. Only no one's going to be giving Bush the Nobel War Prize for it.Judge =/= Scientist ?

Edited.Gore is a politician, not a scientist. It's not an issue of who has the best judgement--Gore's claims are obviously out of line with respective scientific evidence. He exaggerated, just like Bush did over Iraq's WMDs. Only no one's going to be giving Bush the Nobel War Prize for it.Judge =/= Scientist ?
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Asuna Kagurazaka, Negima Magister Nyoro~nEgi Magi
Edit it some more.US Judge - The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
If you'd read the article, you would see that it's like this:
British Court & the IPCC vs. Al Gore
He exaggerated the IPCC's figures. It's obvious to anyone who bothers to compare them, like the British judge did.
But really, let's not worry about it. I certainly don't want to argue with you.
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