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Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:36 am

Aye. And I shall assist!

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Postby likeafox » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:43 am

Kelix, you can't post here only expecting positive comments. If you can't take a little critiquing, either ignore it or don't post your art here in the first place.

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Postby Fritz » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:34 am

Thread officially wins.

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Postby VenM2 » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:05 pm

Art is everywhere, you may say your not an artist but one way or another it intertwines with your life. As for the drawing, big improvement. Considering I had many art classes to begin with I can see my level compared to yours and I see how you feel. Sometimes a critique can be painful but things can get better.
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Postby Chris » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:28 pm

Art is everywhere, you may say your not an artist but one way or another it intertwines with your life. As for the drawing, big improvement. Considering I had many art classes to begin with I can see my level compared to yours and I see how you feel. Sometimes a critique can be painful but things can get better.
What he said ^^

Take Criticism no matter how nasty they are, Some times they are just for the better.

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Postby The MAZZTer » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:05 pm

*sigh* Stand back people, I've seen this before...

#1 rule when you post something you made on the internet:

You are going to get negative feedback. It's inevitable. If you don't want critiques or criticism, don't post your stuff on the internet!

On the other hand, criticism that doesn't offer any tips on improvement is generally useless and a waste of a good database record. I would either ignore such posts or, if I'm feeling generous, prompt the posters for their opinions in that area.

Posting a work for reasons OTHER than to gather feedback and tips for improvement strikes me as selfish, because the only other reasons I can think of are a) praise for an ego boost or b) already inflated ego makes them think people want to see what they're up to in the same way people go to museums to see what Da Vinci was up to. I don't want to accuse you of either, but when someone posts something and then rejects all negative feedback, that's how they look!

Not that we don't want to see what you draw, but really, have some realistic expectations here.

Let me see if I can dredge up some examples...

Ok here this guy posts some art, and people give him suggestions. You can see how he takes them and improves the piece.

And here... well... this isn't a very good example of the other type of thread (too short) but there's not really a whole lot to read in the thread, someone nitpicks anyways, and someone gets annoyed at the poster's attitude toward feedback. Not a whole lot of conversation really (I'll look for a better one).

[Edit: Another example of a good thread. This guy is probably good enough that he can get away without suggestions or tips for improvement, but he asks for them anyway.]

[Edit: I guess this is a good enough example of the worst that can happen when rejecting feedback, although it seems to have been mostly misunderstanding and personal rivalry.]
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Postby Ibun » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:28 pm

Da Vinci was a bloody hack.
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Postby The MAZZTer » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:46 pm

Fine then, think of your favorite artist and mentally replace "Da Vinci" in my post with him/her.

I just picked him randomly probably because I was watching Hogan's Heroes the other day and his name popped up.

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Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:51 pm

#1 rule when you show something you made to other people:

You are going to get negative feedback. It's inevitable. If you don't want critiques or criticism, don't show your stuff to people!
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Postby The MAZZTer » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:53 pm

Look, it's a real life example! Thanks for the fix Octan! You're right, I didn't apply it broadly enough. Image

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Postby Doc Sigma » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:48 pm

Da Vinci was a bloody hack.
Bad artist, good Ninja Turtle.

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Postby Ibun » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:00 pm

Da Vinci was a bloody hack.
Bad artist, good Ninja Turtle.
Exactly.
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Postby Fritz » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:55 pm

Wow dude, you've gotten so much better at drawing!

One small point would be that her left arm is a wee bit larger than her right, but other than that it's pretty nifty :wag:

Constructive critacism, right?
That would be her right arm is bigger than her left.
And yeah, whatever.
I've said before I could care less about how to improve. I'm not an artist, I just like to draw. I'm only as good as I am because I've drawn so much when I'm bored.

As for you Raven, I don't like you. Never have. I'll just leave it at that.
Oh, so you want some criticism from me do you?

1. The body is turned in a weird position.
2. She looks like she just got off drugs.
3. One arm is bigger than the other.
4. The face position to the body is off.
5. The tail doesn't look much like a tail.

Might as well keep going, eh?
Oh oh oh don't forget those nasty tits.

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Postby Spray » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:02 pm

Da Vinci was a bloody hack.
Bad artist, good Ninja Turtle.
Michelangelo was better.

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Postby Priest_Revan » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:24 am

Wow dude, you've gotten so much better at drawing!

One small point would be that her left arm is a wee bit larger than her right, but other than that it's pretty nifty :wag:

Constructive critacism, right?
That would be her right arm is bigger than her left.
And yeah, whatever.
I've said before I could care less about how to improve. I'm not an artist, I just like to draw. I'm only as good as I am because I've drawn so much when I'm bored.

As for you Raven, I don't like you. Never have. I'll just leave it at that.
Oh, so you want some criticism from me do you?

1. The body is turned in a weird position.
2. She looks like she just got off drugs.
3. One arm is bigger than the other.
4. The face position to the body is off.
5. The tail doesn't look much like a tail.

Might as well keep going, eh?
Oh oh oh don't forget those nasty tits.
Ok.. I wont lie... I lul'ed.
If you put peanutbutter anywhere on your body, I'll lick it off...

ANYWHERE.

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