September 11, 2001. To Remember.

[Rooster]

What I don't understand is the complete and utter paranoia that seemed to fill the states after 9/11.

"More terrorists are comming!" was the news, and nothing...yet everyone freaked out. People in small towns started to stock up, I mean, like Tallahassee or somewhere could even possibly be a target. Most people outside of the states don't even know where it is ffs.

I guess I say this from a UK perspective. I mean, we've been living with terrorism since 1917 and the partition of Ireland.

[CodeCat]

I was at home, and didn't care much. I had seen stuff get blown up before so it was nothing new to me. So I came down to watch the news for a moment, then headed back up to the computer and continued what I was doing.

I remember on 15/8 I was in fact in the UK. Staying in a hotel on the coast on our way back from Scotland. It was quite a nice holiday.

[Loeln]

What I don't understand is the complete and utter paranoia that seemed to fill the states after 9/11.

"More terrorists are comming!" was the news, and nothing...yet everyone freaked out. People in small towns started to stock up, I mean, like Tallahassee or somewhere could even possibly be a target. Most people outside of the states don't even know where it is ffs.

No one in this small town did.

[TyVulpine]

What I don't understand is the complete and utter paranoia that seemed to fill the states after 9/11.

"More terrorists are comming!" was the news, and nothing...yet everyone freaked out. People in small towns started to stock up, I mean, like Tallahassee or somewhere could even possibly be a target. Most people outside of the states don't even know where it is ffs.

I guess I say this from a UK perspective. I mean, we've been living with terrorism since 1917 and the partition of Ireland.

Why did people? Blame the U.S. government with their rainbow-flavored "terror alert chart". They constantly raised it to orange, just so we'd "jump through hoops" and panic and such.

[Arloest]

So was Oregon.

And they say the Americans were reckless! Seven trees! What a calamity!

The intent was the same, no matter the outcome. If you want to condemn the US for terrorist actions in wartime, mind that we're not nearly the only ones to commit them.

I fail to see how attempting to light forests on fire, something that happens frequently in the United States every year anyway, is an equivalent intent of nuking a city with hundreds of thousands of residents.

[Loeln]

So was Oregon.

And they say the Americans were reckless! Seven trees! What a calamity!

The intent was the same, no matter the outcome. If you want to condemn the US for terrorist actions in wartime, mind that we're not nearly the only ones to commit them.

I fail to see how attempting to light forests on fire, something that happens frequently in the United States every year anyway, is an equivalent intent of nuking a city with hundreds of thousands of residents.

The intent of both attacks was the same. How they were carried out and the outcome of each differed extremly.

[Gecko]

Jeez... I was only an 8-year-old in Bosnia and Herzegovina (pretty much a 3rd-world-country), and even I can remember seeing it on TV.

R.I.P.

[Rooster]

Jeez... I was only an 8-year-old in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Ejesus, I can remember Bosnia being all over the TV when I was about 8...I remember watching when the world first learned about what the Sebians and Croatians were doing there...

You don't have to answer dude, but did you see anything rough?

[Arloest]

So was Oregon.

And they say the Americans were reckless! Seven trees! What a calamity!

The intent was the same, no matter the outcome. If you want to condemn the US for terrorist actions in wartime, mind that we're not nearly the only ones to commit them.

I fail to see how attempting to light forests on fire, something that happens frequently in the United States every year anyway, is an equivalent intent of nuking a city with hundreds of thousands of residents.

The intent of both attacks was the same. How they were carried out and the outcome of each differed extremly.

Well, when the overall goals and outcomes are that different, the intent is pretty much irrelevant. It's like saying a person lightly pinches someone is just as bad as someone who mutilates another to the point of near-death, because they both had the intent to harm.

[Loeln]

So was Oregon.

And they say the Americans were reckless! Seven trees! What a calamity!

The intent was the same, no matter the outcome. If you want to condemn the US for terrorist actions in wartime, mind that we're not nearly the only ones to commit them.

I fail to see how attempting to light forests on fire, something that happens frequently in the United States every year anyway, is an equivalent intent of nuking a city with hundreds of thousands of residents.

The intent of both attacks was the same. How they were carried out and the outcome of each differed extremly.

Well, when the overall goals and outcomes are that different, the intent is pretty much irrelevant. It's like saying a person lightly pinches someone is just as bad as someone who mutilates another to the point of near-death, because they both had the intent to harm.

Both had the intent to frighten and intimidate the populace and governments of the nations by force to withdraw from fighting, by use of attacks made on the civilian populace.

[Rooster]

I really don't think that some nutty Japanese bloke in a biplane attacking trees really compares to a city-destroying bomb dude... No matter what semantic arguement you throw at it, it is JUST not the same thing.

[Gecko]

Jeez... I was only an 8-year-old in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Ejesus, I can remember Bosnia being all over the TV when I was about 8...I remember watching when the world first learned about what the Sebians and Croatians were doing there...

You don't have to answer dude, but did you see anything rough?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and ... osnian_War

My history teacher gave our class a list of the worst genocides in history (for a Holocaust assignment), and the killings in the 90's in Bosnia made the top 10. Not the best place to be then.

It's not the most wonderful place to live right now either, but it's hardly 'dangerous.' Just another third-world country.

[Arloest]

Well, when the overall goals and outcomes are that different, the intent is pretty much irrelevant. It's like saying a person lightly pinches someone is just as bad as someone who mutilates another to the point of near-death, because they both had the intent to harm.

Both had the intent to frighten and intimidate the populace and governments of the nations by force to withdraw from fighting, by use of attacks made on the civilian populace.

But one was with trees and one was with a metropolis full of people. If the Japanese truly aimed for the same amount of scare-tactic in their attack as we did, they would have done differently. I revert back to my earlier quote.

[Rooster]

Jeez... I was only an 8-year-old in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Ejesus, I can remember Bosnia being all over the TV when I was about 8...I remember watching when the world first learned about what the Sebians and Croatians were doing there...

You don't have to answer dude, but did you see anything rough?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and ... osnian_War

My history teacher gave our class a list of the worst genocides in history (for a Holocaust assignment), and the killings in the 90's in Bosnia made the top 10. Not the best place to be then.

It's not the most wonderful place to live right now either, but it's hardly 'dangerous.' Just another third-world country.

Yeah...I remember watching about Srebrenica on the news....I think it was the first time I realised just what humans could do to each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_Massacre

[Loeln]

But one was with trees and one was with a metropolis full of people. If the Japanese truly aimed for the same amount of scare-tactic in their attack as we did, they would have done differently. I revert back to my earlier quote.

The intelligence of the Japanese military. ¯\(o_°)/¯