September 11, 2001. To Remember.

[Tum0spoo]

I agree. Lets blow up the world.

Hurrah!

[Loeln]

I agree. Lets blow up the world.

The dollar went down and the President said
“Who’s in charge, now?â€

[Tom Flapwell]

Nobody really cares about the massacres in Africa, so the media doesn't pay much heed.

I'm not sure it works that way. Sure, news corporations strive for business by pandering, but do we really care as much about the various untalented, irresponsible blonde bimbos as the media talk about them?

...Don't answer that.

[Comrade K]

I essentially said the same thing :`(

Repetition is the key to learning.

[nickspoon]

It's like Diana, 2,800 times over. Sure, it's very tragic (and I say that sincerely) but it's done. I don't know anybody who died in the attack, so I have to be generally mournful. Yet I'm not generally mournful for the thousands who die every week of starvation and disease. If I were, I'd never get anything done. I'd be too busy being mournful.

[Rooster]

Yeah, live and let live. There's a difference between mourning people you don't know and whining about a gentler age before the terr'ists came.

[TyVulpine]

That would depend on when you say terrorists first started. Some could even argue that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrorist attacks...

[Doc Sigma]

[Mista_B]

That would depend on when you say terrorists first started. Some could even argue that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrorist attacks...

Except that the difference between mutually declared war and terrorism (the intentional targeting of innocents) should be pretty damn obvious.

[Comrade K]

That would depend on when you say terrorists first started. Some could even argue that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrorist attacks...

Except that the difference between mutually declared war and terrorism (the intentional targeting of innocents) should be pretty damn obvious.

The definition of terrorism is exactly that: the intentional targeting of innocents, primarily to fill them with fear to achieve your goals.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were full of innocent non-combatants, and the bombs were dropped more for their shock value than to destroy military targets. Essentially, using the Bomb on Japan was a terrorist act.

[Rooster]

Add Dresden to that list, and Hamburg.

Also add pretty much everything the British Empire did in India/Pakistan, and everywhere else we planted our flag and called "The Kings"

[Loeln]

That would depend on when you say terrorists first started. Some could even argue that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrorist attacks...

Except that the difference between mutually declared war and terrorism (the intentional targeting of innocents) should be pretty damn obvious.

The definition of terrorism is exactly that: the intentional targeting of innocents, primarily to fill them with fear to achieve your goals.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were full of innocent non-combatants, and the bombs were dropped more for their shock value than to destroy military targets.

So was Oregon.

[Muninn]

This was something that happened to America. Seeing that the perpetrators of the crash were already dead their need for some sort of revenge warped it so that it had actually happened to all the world. Now our lives have been changed to before and after 11th September, if you accept it that is.

I was asleep when the planes crashed.

So, let's remember them, as well as the others around the world that murdered this day however many years ago.

Like the 6000 or so English killed in 1297 at the Battle of Stirling Bridge? Or those people who were killed in 3300 B.C. in that nation that no longer exists?

So was Oregon.

And they say the Americans were reckless! Seven trees! What a calamity!

[Loeln]

So was Oregon.

And they say the Americans were reckless! Seven trees! What a calamity!

The intent was the same, no matter the outcome. If you want to condemn the US for terrorist actions in wartime, mind that we're not nearly the only ones to commit them.

[Tom Flapwell]

Now our lives have been changed to before and after 11th September, if you accept it that is.

What do you mean, "if you accept it"? There's no escaping the fact that the cultural landscape has changed in more than one nation. That there has been a greater demand for security. That we've been divided over what to do about terrorism. That the relations between the U.S. and most other countries have soured.