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Postby DesertFoxCat » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:52 pm

Well, what I meant to say was that the randomness is not only in how we see things, but how they interact with each other as well. Even if you DO know their exact position and movement, you still can't predict what will happen because particles will act randomly to each other. One time you look, one particle might bump into another and scatter, and the next time the exact same particle might harmlessly pass another. There's even an incredibly small chance that all particles might just pass through each other at the same time, and let you walk straight through a wall. I'm not kidding!
Did someone mention Brownian motion? That's go to have something to do with this. And there's also an article about truely random numbers, or numbers more random than using a computer

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Postby CodeCat » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:54 pm

I don't think we need to go any further. Novil just proved the existence of true randomness with his post. :lol:
Furries? Are they the nutters that pretend to be animals and draw humans that look like animals? Christ, I sink my head into my paws... -Rooster

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Postby DesertFoxCat » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:47 pm

Another problem solved by waffles :wag:

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Postby Tum0spoo » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:19 am

I don't think we need to go any further. Novil just proved the existence of true randomness with his post. :lol:
I think we have a winner...
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Postby CodeCat » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:26 am

Hmm that's still on topic, even if it is 2 years too late. Now if he had posted about a Norwegian food processing industry, THAT would've been random.
Furries? Are they the nutters that pretend to be animals and draw humans that look like animals? Christ, I sink my head into my paws... -Rooster

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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:41 am

I still don't get how being uncertain about something qualifyes it as being true random, just unpredictable.
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Postby CodeCat » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:12 am

Isn't unpredictable and random the same thing?
Furries? Are they the nutters that pretend to be animals and draw humans that look like animals? Christ, I sink my head into my paws... -Rooster

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Postby Tom Flapwell » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:58 pm

Isn't unpredictable and random the same thing?
An enemy's moves can be hard to predict without being random.

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Postby DesertFoxCat » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:30 pm

Isn't unpredictable and random the same thing?
An enemy's moves can be hard to predict without being random.
In this case, we're talking about events that are impossible to predict, which pretty much matches Google's definition of random.

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Postby Muninn » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:27 pm

Completely off-topic:

Haha, lol. Even the official tourist website of Belgium has a site dedicated to Belgian Waffles: http://www.visitbelgium.com/waffles.htm (sometimes served with whipped cream)
It's something that's apparently a famous part of Belgian culture that's also well known outside it (though I'd personally never heard of it until the Ozy and Millie joke). I'm sure American travel agency's, in order to promote tourism, have used cowboys, France has used the Eiffel Tower and so forth.

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Postby Arloest » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:25 pm

Today young men on acid realized that alll matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.
Who sleeps shall awake, greeting the shadows from the sun
Who sleeps shall awake, looking through the window of our lives
Waiting for the moment to arrive...
Show us the silence in the rise,
So that we may someday understand...

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Postby Muninn » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:39 pm

Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream...

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Postby Tom Flapwell » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:59 pm

Today young men on acid realized that alll matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.
Let me guess: acid rain. (flap flap flap flap)

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Postby Zaaphod » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:59 am

Today young men on acid realized that alll matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.
Let me guess: acid rain. (flap flap flap flap)
That's terrible Tom. :D
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Postby Holyman83 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:54 pm

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