Does order exist?

[ImAWaffle]

Or is everything in a constant state of chaotic flux, every occurence merely the result of coincidence and happenstance?

[Niko123000]

going with the second one. This is something I kinda live by:

"Light cannot live without Darkness, and Darkness cannot Exist without Light, Which standing am I though...?"

and my standing on Chaos and order is basically the same thing.

[Miles E Traysandor]

That sums up 'Order' here

[Blue Blur]

I order you to grab some cookies. Well, that works. Okay, next definition.

However, it seems that lately it hasn't been getting enforced. Order is a state of keeping things in an easily understandable state. It's just a different type. Order is not the opposite of chaos.

[Jerry Roosevelt]

Sure. A, B, C, D...

[Holyman83]

Order exists you just need to know were to find it.

[Loeln]

going with the second one. This is something I kinda live by:

"Light cannot live without Darkness, and Darkness cannot Exist without Light, Which standing am I though...?"

and my standing on Chaos and order is basically the same thing.

He's Chaotic Neutral.

[Niko123000]

going with the second one. This is something I kinda live by:

"Light cannot live without Darkness, and Darkness cannot Exist without Light, Which standing am I though...?"

and my standing on Chaos and order is basically the same thing.

He's Chaotic Neutral.

... Simpler: I'm nuetral period

[The J.A.M.]

Define "order"

[johndoe0028]

"Order" is merely a concept; it exists only in our minds. Similar ti time. It's just a way us intelligent beings keep things easier to keep track of.

So...naturally, it is constantly "chaotic", with every occurance adding to what is called "entropy"...

Blargh; too much thinking...

[Tum0spoo]

Define "order"

I'll have the sirloin with a baked potato.

[CodeCat]

Order isn't really just a human definition, it's physically defined as well. In fact, the definition of time itself is related to order. The second law of thermodynamics is:
'The disorder of any system always increases with time.'
Which could be also reversed:
'Time passes in the direction that order decreases.'

What it basically means is that if anything is very ordered, it will be easy to make it less ordered. But reversing it will be very hard, unless you use up a lot of energy putting things back in an ordered state. Just drop a cup (pretty ordered) on the ground and it will shatter (lots of random pieces = disorder). But it won't go back to its cup-state because that would mean an increase in order.

Of course, you could argue that it's just the laws of mechanics that are making it happen. The cup falls because of gravity, and electromagnetic/mechanical forces in the cup cause it to break. But that's really looking at the details. What's important is that all natural laws obey laws of their own, and one of those is the law that 'disorder increases with time'. The laws of mechanics, and actually all laws of nature, are subordinate to these more fundamental rules. And this law is fundamental enough that it's also responsible for black hole radiation.

[Burning Sheep Productions]

I'd say this is turning into a question of whether random exists. If it does then that'll be a pain in the butt for science.

[CodeCat]

It does exist, and it's been scientifically proven, too. Quantum physics is even built on randomness.

[Burning Sheep Productions]

Really? I thought quantum physics just used the idea of randomness because they had no better way of explaining electron behaviour or whatever.
...
How the hell do you prove randomness!?