Official Llewellyn Inaction Figure - 08 Dec 2003

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Postby Tavis » Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:56 pm

<a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2003/om20031208.html' target='_blank'>Official Llewellyn Inaction Figure</a><br><br>Ooh! I want one too!<br><br>Y'know, this is one of those cases where Bill Watterson (of <i>Calvin and Hobbes</i> fame) and DC Simpson differ greatly. Watterson has fought against the marketing of his comics on t-shirts, figurines and the like, while Simpson has gone as far as selling t-shirts himself. It would be nice to actually get a figurine like that sometime.<br><br>Of course, in the nature of <i>Ozy and Millie</i>, the physical existence of the characters is much more definite than it is for <i>Calvin and Hobbes</i>. When we see Millie playing an imaginary character, we see Millie dressed up in costume, but when Calvin plays something like Spaceman Spiff, we are drawn into his imaginary world, and its reality is all but totally unknown to the readers. The true nature of Hobbes cannot, must not be answered by people selling plush animals, but the same does not have to be said of Llewellyn.<br><br>That's one thing I think is interesting about <i>Ozy and Millie</i>; the unusual things they experience are for their part real, although it would be interesting to sometime be able to see the world through the imaginations of its characters.

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Postby norsenerd » Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:40 pm

I think everybody here wants one too. I know I do.
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Postby MidnightRealism » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:39 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 8 2003, 12:56 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 8 2003, 12:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Y'know, this is one of those cases where Bill Watterson (of <i>Calvin and Hobbes</i> fame) and DC Simpson differ greatly. Watterson has fought against the marketing of his comics on t-shirts, figurines and the like, while Simpson has gone as far as selling t-shirts himself. It would be nice to actually get a figurine like that sometime. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Although I understood Watterson's stance, and can even applaud him for sticking to what <i>he</i> wanted <i>Calvin and Hobbes</i> to be, I really would have liked a t-shirt of Hobbes that isn't bootlegged. Nothing says cheap imitation like a heat transfer of the duo with "Washington, D.C." written under them.<br><br>As far as the inaction figure goes, yes, I would definitely get one. Llewellyn would go right next to my bobblehead dog who advises me. *twitches* I'm not crazy.

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Postby Doctor Fred » Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:53 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 9 2003, 03:56 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 9 2003, 03:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> although it would be interesting to sometime be able to see the world through the imaginations of its characters. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Naw. Ozy and Millie were meant to be interpreted through realalistic view.
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Postby Foxchild » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:05 am

thats one of the things i love about it. You never leave 'reality', even if reality is underneath the cushions of a couch. Your left to imagine what the chars are imagining. It's not directly handed to you. granted, there are fewer imagination strips in O&M than C&H, but thats another plus about the comic as a whole. You get to see more of what childrens reactions to 'worldly' ideas, politics, laws, and actions would be if they had a slightly larger vocabulary due to intelligence or whatever method such as reading. (hm... maybe theres more to that "READ or i'll stick gum in your hair" poster than we all first thought!)<br><br>As for the Llewellyn Inaction Figure, I think its safe to say we would all like to have one... although, I don't have a yellow nodding dog on a shelf to put it next to.<br><br>[edit] Just for the record, I would like to state that, dew in part to overexhaustion(stupid finals), I have just now confused my post with Midnights, thinking he typed the same thing i had! your not alone, Dr. Fred!
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Postby Tavis » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:35 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Doctor Fred+Dec 8 2003, 06:53 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Doctor Fred @ Dec 8 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 9 2003, 03:56 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 9 2003, 03:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> although it would be interesting to sometime be able to see the world through the imaginations of its characters. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Naw. Ozy and Millie were meant to be interpreted through realalistic view. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Agreed. Alas, it won't happen because it is a completely different style of comic strip from Calvin and Hobbes, as much as people would say the two are alike. I think most of the fans here are discerning enough to know precisely how the two are so radically different from each other.

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Postby Zylo » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:46 am

It's more fun too see the character's (esp. Millie's) percepetion of reality juxtaposed against actual reality. It's even funnier when actual reality is more messed up than the character's reality.<br><br>Also, comparing O&M to C&H, there are numerous similarities, like how both are named after two main characters (wow, real acute observation on my part). Also, it seems like O&M characters are based off C&H archetypes, like how Hobbes and Ozy are both usually the voice of reason, yet reluctant accomplices to the mischevous one (Millie or Calvin). Both are tormented by a playground bully (Moe and Jeremy). Both have some form of a female foil (Felicia, Susie). Both are in elementary school, yada yada yada...I'm trying to figure out where Llewelyn would fall in here...maybe a mix of Hobbes and Calvin's dad...<br><br>I can't believe I used archetypes in talking about a COMIC STRIP. I'm paying wayyyy too much attention in English class (I hate English). I should find the transcendental hygene strip and show it to my English teacher; we just finished studying Emerson and Thoreau, so she may get a kick out of the strip.
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Postby norsenerd » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:46 am

I think the couch seens but also the Idaho sence are imagonary enoguh. Also the flashbaks might count too but I wounld'nt.<br><br>Edit: <!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> [edit] Just for the record, I would like to state that, dew in part to overexhaustion(stupid finals), I have just now confused my post with Midnights, thinking he typed the same thing i had! your not alone, Dr. Fred!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>That's too funny to say.
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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:03 am

Heh, yeah.<br>But I'm having the opposite problem.<br>Now I'm starting to associate them with the swapped avatars so if they change back I'll be confused all over again!<br><br>And then they might get the idea to change on a random basis.<br>AAAAARGH!!!
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Postby Foxchild » Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:29 am

Well, it was pretty random to begin with. I think, anyway. Although, now both midnight and i have the same everything until he changes his back.
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Postby MidnightRealism » Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:58 am

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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:43 pm

That's what I'm saying, or there could be two Midnights, or two Foxchilds!<br>Dangit why am I giving you ideas!?<br>Arg arg arg...
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Postby Doctor Fred » Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:10 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-FoxChild+Dec 9 2003, 11:05 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FoxChild @ Dec 9 2003, 11:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> [edit] Just for the record, I would like to state that, dew in part to overexhaustion(stupid finals), I have just now confused my post with Midnights, thinking he typed the same thing i had! your not alone, Dr. Fred! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> hehehe. got a taste of your own medicine.
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Postby Sabre » Wed Dec 10, 2003 2:35 am

sculpt em' out of clay!<br><br>I've got nothing better to do anyway.


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