Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Revisiting old Ozy & Millie comics.

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Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby NonsenseWords » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:55 pm

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Re: Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby Arloest » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:01 pm

OK, -now- I'm seeing the staggering similarities.
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Re: Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby Tom_Radigan » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:19 pm

But I see one fundamental difference: Millie is deliberately making Ozy look terrible, while Hobbes is simply inept.

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Re: Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby Bocaj Claw » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:30 pm

I always believed Hobbes had deep seated resentment for Calvin for some reason.
I mostly wrote this strip because there had to be something between the previous strip and the next one.
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Re: Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby Liz » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:56 pm

To be honest, I don't think the similarities are intentional. I think DCS read Calvin and Hobbes at some point and when he wrote this arc, he was unconsciously influenced by the strips. He recalled what he probably thought was an orignal story line. It's like when someone tells another person about something that happened in their life (Such as stealing a candy bar from a store) and then later, the person that was told the story will somehow take the memory as their own and think it really happened to them.

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Re: Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby Muninn » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:09 pm

What I think is the most similar is the way Simpson wrote these particular strips. Watterson frequently put multiple jokes, even in weekday comics, and you can see Simpson trying that here in the dialogue whereas in much of Ozy and Millie's run he took the more conventional approach of having one strip be devoted to one joke.
To be honest, I don't think the similarities are intentional. I think DCS read Calvin and Hobbes at some point and when he wrote this arc, he was unconsciously influenced by the strips
Simpson has openly called Calvin and Hobbes as one of his influences. Anyone growing up in the late 80's/early 90's reading comics would probably say the same.

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Re: Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby Tom_Radigan » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:13 pm

To be honest, I don't think the similarities are intentional. I think DCS read Calvin and Hobbes at some point and when he wrote this arc, he was unconsciously influenced by the strips. He recalled what he probably thought was an orignal story line. It's like when someone tells another person about something that happened in their life (Such as stealing a candy bar from a store) and then later, the person that was told the story will somehow take the memory as their own and think it really happened to them.

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Re: Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby Cactus Jack » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:45 am

Its similar, but I think in this case the story is different enough that its not a rip off. Similar to how both Family Guy and The Simpsons did an episode where a dog has sex with a greyhound during the race, but aside from that both episodes are very different.

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Re: Thursday, October 8, 1998: Ozy the doormat

Postby Liz » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:26 pm

To be honest, I don't think the similarities are intentional. I think DCS read Calvin and Hobbes at some point and when he wrote this arc, he was unconsciously influenced by the strips
Simpson has openly called Calvin and Hobbes as one of his influences. Anyone growing up in the late 80's/early 90's reading comics would probably say the same.
Ah. Then he pretty much is "ripping off" C&H. Still, I don't think it was meant to be thievery of any sort (Not saying you said that). A lot of people are influenced by others. It's a lot like how amateur artists tend to begin drawing in someone else's style, and then, as they get better, they eventually shape that style into something of their own. DCS eventually did that with O&M's script and stories.
Its similar, but I think in this case the story is different enough that its not a rip off. Similar to how both Family Guy and The Simpsons did an episode where a dog has sex with a greyhound during the race, but aside from that both episodes are very different.
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