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Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 11:56 pm
by Northern_l33tness
Though I have the feeling the author of this has a very big political bias and wants to cause a ruckus, I think this one is a pretty important one for people to know about.<br><br><a href='http://www.congress.org/congressorg/iss ... ongressorg' target='_blank'>http://www.congress.org/congressorg/iss ... r><br>Glad I'm Canadian...

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 12:01 am
by Miles E Traysandor
I've heard about this through the grapevine.<br><br>Glad I'm an only child.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 12:22 am
by The_Sparrow_
Glad I live on the other side of the world.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:03 am
by IceWolfx12
<!--emo&<_<--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/dry.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='dry.gif' /><!--endemo--> Well isn't that just peachy... glad I'm too young still...

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:50 am
by norsenerd
Weee. The US is getting conscription. YAy.<br><br>Anyways I am in favor of making the draft more equatable and alowing women and college students to be rafted. I am scared about being drafted but if my country wants me to serve I will do so honorably. That's the day after my 21st birthday too. If I am drafted first (highly unlikly) and asuming the draft is iniciated it will be like: happy birthdya, report to basic training.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:52 am
by Softpaw
Bleh, if I get drafted I'll be in Canada the next day, assuming I can't play any of my three "Get Out of the Draft Free" cards.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:26 am
by Zaaphod
Note that the article says the legislation is <i>pending</i>, it isn't in effect yet. It has to be passed by both the House and the Senate, and there's no guarantee it will.<br>

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:28 am
by Softpaw
There's no guarantee it WON'T, either, Congress has been wanting to reinstate the draft ever since the 9-11 attacks.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:55 am
by Zaaphod
True that. I guess, like everything else, we have to sit back and wait to see what happens.<br><br>I'm against the reinstatement of the draft myself, even though I'm too old to be affected.<br>

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 3:03 am
by Softpaw
Well, I'm not just sitting around, this has been bumped to first priority on my activism list, tied for first place with the Federal Marriage Amendment.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 3:14 am
by Dr. Doog
<!--QuoteBegin-FelixLockhart+May 21 2004, 09:52 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FelixLockhart @ May 21 2004, 09:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Bleh, if I get drafted I'll be in Canada the next day, assuming I can't play any of my three "Get Out of the Draft Free" cards. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> same here.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:06 pm
by Miles E Traysandor
<!--QuoteBegin-Dr. Doog+May 21 2004, 10:14 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Dr. Doog @ May 21 2004, 10:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-FelixLockhart+May 21 2004, 09:52 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FelixLockhart @ May 21 2004, 09:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Bleh, if I get drafted I'll be in Canada the next day, assuming I can't play any of my three "Get Out of the Draft Free" cards. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>same here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Just a fair warning, if you dodge the draft, you are liable to be arrested the next time you enter the United States.<br><br>And don't think that they won't come looking for you in Canada, because they will, considering Canada is a very good neighbor for the U.S.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:13 pm
by Ankaris
So much for the freedom to live without fear, eh?<br><br>I WOULD say I'm glad I live in the UK, but with Messers Blair and Bush being so close, you can't really rule anything out, can you?<br><br>You could always come visit here. I've always believed that with all the EU legislature on human rights, it would be sheer hell to get a draft pushed through, let alone ship someone back to face one.<br><br>But hey, it's a crazy world.<br><br>EDITO: Found what Miles was referring to, in that article:<br><br>"College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year."<br><br>Damn, that sucks.<br>

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:27 pm
by norsenerd
<!--QuoteBegin-FelixLockhart+May 21 2004, 10:03 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FelixLockhart @ May 21 2004, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Well, I'm not just sitting around, this has been bumped to first priority on my activism list, tied for first place with the Federal Marriage Amendment. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Keep in mind that that admentdemtn would probably never even come close to sucseeding. Admnedments are hard to do and I think only twice admendments had been passed for polocy issues as oposed to civil righs or parlimentary issues: the 16th (income tax) and the 18th (prohibition). It shoudln;t be rulled out but it is higly unlikly. Several admendments are proposed but alsmost none are enacted.<br><br>Woot. I got both those numbers right befor eI looked them up!<br><br>*does a dace*<br><br>I'm cool. I have it going. I'm hip. I'm cool. I've got it going on. All you other players want to be like me. I'm cool. ect.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:40 pm
by Zylo
Ok, in June 2005, I'll have just graduated and I'll be 18, and not have started my freshman year yet, so I am prime meat for this draft, should it happen. I'm also one of two children, so I can't use that, either.<br><br>Oh yea, this is not good with me. Grrr...