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MuffinSticks · Postby **MuffinSticks** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:41 am

and then they'll either feel stupid and not ask for details, or ask you to explain what you actually believe

I get the exact same reaction from saying I'm agnostic.
And what are you going on about, saying I don't know what agnosticism is?

Dr. Sticks · Postby **Dr. Sticks** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:42 am

no one that calls themselves an agnostic knows what the word means. there is no fence on which you can sit.

MuffinSticks · Postby **MuffinSticks** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:51 am

I said they are commonly referred to as fence sitters, not that I call them that. Agnostics believe anything is possible, so you can't rule out anything. An agnostic can be on any part of the evolution-creationism spectrum, excluding being all the way to one side. I'm basically a typical atheist, except I believe creationism is possible.

Dr. Sticks · Postby **Dr. Sticks** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:55 am

oh ok lol so you're an "agnostic atheist"

Segovia · Postby **Segovia** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:57 am

What's with all these sub levels of theist, agnostics, and atheists?

Æron · Postby **Æron** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:02 am

Because not all people fit into those three rigid categories.

MuffinSticks · Postby **MuffinSticks** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:02 am

Lol segovia. Agnostics can learn towards any side they want. I'm not completely atheist, I just have most of the same beliefs as one.

Segovia · Postby **Segovia** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:03 am

Soon there's going to be an agnostic agnostic atheist.

Dr. Sticks · Postby **Dr. Sticks** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:04 am

there isn't. you aren't paying close attention, so I will spell it out:

you can either be a theist, or an atheist. that is because the etymological definition of an atheist is someone that is not a theist. Now, the idea of "faith" means that you accept the belief that god exist despite the fact that there may not be "proof" for the existence of god (and the same for atheists). In admitting that there is a possibility that your belief on whether or not god exists may be wrong (ie, if you're a theist, and you admit that god MAY not exist, even though you do have faith that god does exist), you are an agnostic.
agnosticism is not a third option, it is a modifier for atheist or theist.

Segovia · Postby **Segovia** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:05 am

You already gave me that discussion already Sticks. I was trying to make a joke. Geez.

Segovia · Postby **Segovia** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:06 am

Lol segovia. Agnostics can learn towards any side they want. I'm not completely atheist, I just have most of the same beliefs as one.

Lol I felt the same way when Sticks suggested that I was an Agnostic Theist.

MuffinSticks · Postby **MuffinSticks** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:07 am

I don't have faith in god, I just believe any god has the possibility of existence. Are you saying that makes me not agnostic?

Segovia · Postby **Segovia** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:08 am

I don't have faith in god, I just believe any god has the possibility of existence. Are you saying that makes me not agnostic?

Where you talking to me or Sticks?

MuffinSticks · Postby **MuffinSticks** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:08 am

Sticks of course.

Segovia · Postby **Segovia** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:09 am

Oh ok. Then I'll just stay out of it.

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