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BIRT: Paddling as punishment be allowed in schools?

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No.
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stupid poll is stupid
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Do your own homework.
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Postby osprey » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:48 am

I think it's up to the parents to get off their ass and do some parenting.
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Postby Ibun » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:15 pm

I think it's up to the parents to get off their ass and do some parenting.
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Postby Priest_Revan » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:48 pm

Do your own homework.

Also... I don't think they should paddle in schools. Let the parents do it.
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Postby Kojiro » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:18 am

Lol, corporal punishment. Still available in Texas. Along with the Death Penalty and Mr. Robinson.
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Postby rabid_fox » Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:08 am

As a teacher in a public high school - no. There is no need for it. Any teacher who tells you otherwise should leave their job.
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Postby Comrade K » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:30 am

As a teacher in a public high school - no. There is no need for it. Any teacher who tells you otherwise should leave their job.
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Postby Hanging Tree » Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:51 am

Most of the time those who use a physical punishment are doing it because it makes them feel better and lets them get out their agression. They don't do it to help the kid.
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Postby rabid_fox » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:01 am

Though physical contact is important. Very, very important.

Alas, illegal.
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Postby Ibun » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:25 am

Do your own homework.

Also... I don't think they should paddle in schools. Let the parents do it.
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Postby rabid_fox » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:44 am

Not so much. As far as I can tell, the parents should punch the kids in the face for doing their homework.

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Postby Baconsticks » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:15 pm

Not so much. As far as I can tell, the parents should punch the kids in the face for doing their homework.

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Postby Doc Sigma » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:57 pm

Not so much. As far as I can tell, the parents should punch the kids in the face for doing their homework.

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As punishment for the kids doing homework, or as payment for the parents doing it for them? THESE ARE IMPORTANT DETAILS.

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Postby rabid_fox » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:31 pm

The left fist for doing it, the right fist for payment.
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Postby Rooster » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:26 pm

It is the job of a teacher to educate, not punish, and the two can and should never be mixed as kids then assosciate being punished with education, and won't even try to learn anything.

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Postby Moddex » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:51 pm

I'm against the idea of striking someone with something entirely. Especially to the younger children. Minds are very impressionable at that age And usually aggressive behavior or punishment of that nature teaches and imprints on children at an early age that the only way to resolve a trouble maker is to beat them to submission, thus further invoking a sharp increase in aggression and stress. People can be sorted out mentally a lot more effectively, it's just no one has the patience to do this properly and try to resolve the issue in a way they think is faster by paddling them.

I believe the only reason why we even have people today thinking paddling is the right thing is because our previous generations were brought up to think that... And that our current generation is on the fence at this point. We're just plain up becoming smarter as a species and we're finding socially and psychologically more effective methods. We're getting too smart for paddling and eventually, it will be done away with by our future generation. (So long as ours doesn't go into some massive paddling spree on our kids for the next 5 to 10 years anyway...)

People do stupid stuff, but we don't try to humiliate and hurt them unless we're plainly out to cause mental damage and further fuel the next offense they make -- whether we realize that or not. That's all paddling does anymore is turn people into aggressive bullies. We need to be less authoritarian and more empathic to what's on our kid's minds. To those who think kids are too simple minded to be capable of premeditated things we forbid them to do, think again. There's always an explanation for everything. Whether it be curiosity (Wandering where they shouldn't.), creativity (Writing on the walls.), desire for attention (Hitting someone or crying and carrying on.), or vengeance. (IE little Bobby pushed little Susan in the dirt cause she called him a dummy.) They're also capable of being stressed very easily and will do things they shouldn't in the midst of this mood.

If it's honestly boiled down to you as a parent needing to paddle a kid, you've effectively screwed up somewhere cause if you find yourself implementing corporal punishment when a simple sit-down as failed you, you need help with parenting the child. Perhaps you should re-evaluate how you teach your child right from wrong, introduce consequences of a less-than physical nature that gets the point across without genuinely altering the child's thinking ability, and try to fix things verbally. You kid will thank you greatly later for it, trust me.

But more over on the FOCUS of the subject, I wouldn't want some person I hardly know beating my child across the seat with a wooden paddle. Based on how I was raised, that's considered primitive and cruel.
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