Linux...

[Dr. Doog]

xandros, along with all debian distros, has a very simple program for installing packages.

[Burning Sheep Productions]

Those icons look like they've come out of FireFox... Only with a bit more shineyness to them.

[Steve the Pocket]

I actually ripped them from KDE 3.2, along with the buttons on the window's toolbar. I haven't yet figured out how to make a good icon.<br><br>Oh! I mean, uh --- ooh! shiney!!!

[GhostWay]

Well, if you're looking for Linux games, I'd reccomend <a href='http://tuxracer.sourceforge.net/' target='_blank'>Tux Racer</a> and <a href='http://pingus.seul.org/welcome.html' target='_blank'>Pingus</a> (a Lemmings clone). They're both quite a bit of fun.

[Dr. Doog]

and gnome is the best desktop.

[Burning Sheep Productions]

Tux Racer is an awesome game, why doesn't Windows come with awesome games like that?

[UltimateVG]

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> What really sucks about SuSE is that it came with almost no games whatsoever, meaning one of these days I'll have to download them from the KDE website and try to install them, no easy task given Linux's weird "package-based" installation system.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Then you wouldn't really like Slackware. It only comes with the games that are default with KDE and Gnome. I'm one of those people who loves games like Frozen Bubble and ClanBomber.<br><br>Personally, for a newbie, Windows is the best, but for a experienced person or server purposes, I have to say Linux is the best. Then there's people like me who use Cygwin and get the best of both worlds <!--emo&^_^--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /happy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='happy.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Archaemic]

Mmm, GNOME.

[Ruedii-X]

<!--QuoteBegin-FelixSoftpaw+Jan 29 2005, 10:15 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FelixSoftpaw @ Jan 29 2005, 10:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Well, I finally got a spare computer to work well enough to install Linux on (Mandrake 10.1), and after playing with it for the last 24 hours, my thoughts are as follows:<br><br>1. Linux is weird<br>2. Linux makes mundane tasks excessively difficult<br>3. People who recommend the widespread use of Linux as a desktop OS are out of touch with reality<br><br>After getting it up and running, first thing I wanted to do was get my network working. Thankfully, the ethernet card was installed properly and required little more than basic TCP/IP configuration. HOWEVER, I then tried to set up some file sharing stuff. I still haven't figured out how to connect to my network's file server. I tried to set up some sharing options to share the Linux box's files, but I kept getting this error that I had to login as root to save my changes to the file. I tried the "su" command, which is supposed to work, but it didn't. I ended up having to reboot, change run levels, login as root from command prompt, and force-start the GUI from there. Once I got it up, it presented me with a headache-inducing red background that I couldn't get rid of, and numerous warnings that "running as root can allow you to damage your system with nothing to stop you". There's little that ticks me off worse than having software try to push me around. I am the admin, the computer is the dumb servant. Nevermind that I have no experience with the OS, I want to run as root, dammit!<br><br>Bleh, not sure what the point of this is, maybe I just needed to rant?<br><br>Oh, wait, this can be the "talk about Linux" thread, that works <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>And Ruedii, no smart-a** comment about my noob-ness please. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Have you tried using KDE for you're desktop environment, it's a bit more targeted towards the general user.<br><br><br>Personally, I think Windows users need a touch of reality, as their OS is so easy to mess up as it's incredible. Even Mac requires some pretty steady maintainance, although it's not bad. I have to run the maintainance on my Mac soon. I probably should archive, whipe and transfer my FireFox installation as well, it's getting pretty cluttered, I've been using the same user directory since almost a year ago, when FireFox changed it's directory location to be more "Mac Compliant"

[Ruedii-X]

<!--QuoteBegin-DoppledangeR DooG+Jan 31 2005, 04:18 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (DoppledangeR DooG @ Jan 31 2005, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> and gnome is the best desktop. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> For experts I would recomend GNOME, but Felix SoftPaw isn't an expert.

[Softpaw]

Yes, I am using KDE, which is unstable as hell. Gnome is more stable, but I can't figure out how to do anything with it.

[Dr. Doog]

oh, yeah. i guess that is a bit harder. but i meant for octan. he had... I forget what environment it's called, but it's not really good, in his "screenshot."

[Ruedii-X]

<!--QuoteBegin-FelixSoftpaw+Feb 2 2005, 12:19 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FelixSoftpaw @ Feb 2 2005, 12:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Yes, I am using KDE, which is unstable as hell. Gnome is more stable, but I can't figure out how to do anything with it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> If you're running unstable, you may want to check that you're video drivers are set up right. If you have an ATI card, there should be an update package on MandrakeUpdate by now. It's generally dificult to install the updates direct from ATI into Mandrake Linux.

[UltimateVG]

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Yes, I am using KDE, which is unstable as hell. Gnome is more stable, but I can't figure out how to do anything with it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>KDE 3.2 was pretty stable, but upgrading to KDE 3.3 was a bit of a hassle. First off, you have to get the packages (or compile from source if you have like 5 hours to spare), install them, then get the latest versions of libIDL and glibc and compile and install them.<br><br>The first time I used KDE 3.3, it was buggy and segfaulted every chance it got. But, I did update to KDE 3.3 again and it seems to be just fine except for a few problems with sound.<br><br>I'm also going to consider GNOME, I tried it and didn't like it, but I never really got around to tweaking with it.

[Joe3210]

What's the point of using Linux anyway?