Jocks never quite get the point. - 12 Dec 2003

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Postby Tavis » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:49 pm

<a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2003/om20031212.html' target='_blank'>Jocks never quite get the point.</a><br><br>Jocks may be able to beat the nerdier ones up, but it is the meek that inherit the earth. Alright, that is not always the case; take professional athletes and other celebrities for example. Okay, celebrities aren't that good of an example either since so many of them don't appear to have physique OR wit. Eh, just take it any way you like. Intelligent people still manage to get by just fine, and I'm alright with that.<br><br>It has been my personal experience as well that bullies are less likely to treat you badly when they need your brainpower. A nerd caught in such a situation is fortunate indeed since strong bullies make stronger friends once you get them to like you. Of course, it's nicer when they are willing to learn something and not just steal answers, but at least they're not trying to beat you up and take your lunch money anymore.<br><br>Background viewers, delight in the moving picture behind Ozy. Ooh. Ahhh.

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Postby penguinita » Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:15 pm

i must be very lucky, i never expereinced physical bullying. in the younger grades, especially after changing schools, i would get teased some verbally, but i did learn how to ignore that. my younger sister, on the other hand, did feel physically threated at her school suffenctly to change schools
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Postby Muninn » Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:37 pm

Although the picture in the background is very tiny, i'm quite certain it's Pogo Possum, who is also in my avatar.

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Postby Zylo » Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:06 pm

I never got physically bullied, except for one instance in 4th grade when a guy kicked me in the nuts. Oddly enough, we became good friends in 5th grade. Weird how things work. I got a ton of verbal abuse, though, especially in elementary school. And middle school. And freshman year. over the past two years, however, I'm actually being accepted by my classmates and have more then 5 good friends. I guess people mature...to a certain extent. It's been two years since somebody's called me 'gay,' so there's been some shift in verbal abuse recently.
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Postby Doctor Fred » Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:02 pm

Yes, I too was only treated with emotional pain rather than physical. But a sense of humor has allowed me to stay at piece with those jocks.
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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:14 am

Ech, bullies.<br>Depends on who is the bully.<br>Ones with no lives you just kick 'em if they bother you.<br>Ones socially superior then you just make them feel uncomfortabe with what they're doing.
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Postby Henohenomoheji » Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:50 pm

i would rather trade emotional bullying for physical. My personal moral code forbids me from beating up emotional bullys <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->. I'm at the point of my life where i think i'm (or at least am supposed to think so) invincible but i know i'm not. I've never actually been in a "real" fight before.<br><br>why are people like us considered "natural targets" or something like that? and do we outnumber them?
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Postby Foxchild » Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:08 pm

I'm not the physically violent type of person, and yes I have been physically ragged on. I've also run into situations like this strip presents, but it wasn't homework related. Heres two completely separate stories from the same year, 8th grade<br><br>First, Joey Vega was one of the 'tough' guys in school. To give a visual description, he was about 40 lbs heavier than i was with muscle, and was about 8 inches taller than me. and since I was not, i was a target for verbal abuse from him. One day, for whatever reason during lunch period I had to go to my locker. He happened to have (yet another) lunch detention that day. I had never seen him in lunch detention(mainly because i reallly nevr got any...exept for missing homework <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> !) but knew he got them all the time. When i saw him in the room, i saw something i didn't not expect... he was in the room cleaning the bookshelves... crying! there, the bully that had harrased me for months, crying! When he looked up and saw me through the door, there was this look of 'holy sweet merciful crud!', and at that point i realized I had thre options in front of me. 1) walk away and keep it to myself. 2) make fun of him, and thus boosting my "popularity". 3) the one i chose, I went in and asked the teacher if it would be alright if i helped him clean the shelves. She said that was fine, so I did. There was some small talk exchanged, but nothing really beyond the basics. At the end of the lunch period, he looked at me and said "thanks." After that point, he never bothered me. Granted, he didn't stop others from making fun, but since he was origionally a ring-leader of the bunch, his silence meant a lot as well.<br><br>Second story, with a slightly different ending than the first. Another antagonizer was A. J. Sanchez. He was actually shorter than me, and probably weighed less too! Now, this kid on two occasions tried to buy some of my ritalyn(god, I hate that stuff!). He also made fun of me every chance he got. This lasted through the whole year, every day. Now, i didn't really ever let him get to me, however there was one incedent that I, he, and the rest of that class will probably never forget! One day, I had to use the restrooms while in english class. I went and did my thing, and started washing my hands when guess who comes through the door! He comes in with the sole purpose of making fun of me. At that point, my parrents had been separated and devorced two years prior, and he had only come to the school that year. Well, he decides to bring it up any way, and he see's that he isn't getting through. He sais several things, and then makes this statement:<br><!--QuoteBegin- A.J. the small+--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> ( A.J. the small)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> "You know, i bet your the cause for your parrents divorce, you suck so much! such a nerd!"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Ever seen "A Christmas Story" with Ralphie? that one line right before the fight scene describes it perfectly. <br><!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> and in the back of my head, i felt this litte flame starting to grow...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I gave him a chance to take it back, he didn't and continued<br><!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> "flickering, burning... " "then, something just snapped!"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Now, i didn't go as all out as ralphie did, but i did hit A.J. a couple times hard enough to leave him lieing on the ground. No one, and I mean no one could get away with saying that! That was the one thing that really made me snap. He did bother me a couple times after that, but not for several weeks! he did end up almost getting expelled for giving me a bloody nose on the bus as we were about to leave from 8th grade retreat. That got him banned from the class trip to Hershy Park! <br><br>(wooh! long post!)<br><br>Those are the two biggest expieriences that have changed the way I was bullied. Thankfully, as time went on and people matured (and I was taken off ADD medication!) things changed. <a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.net/2000/om20000812.html' target='_blank'>Austere Maturity</a> kinda apllies both in short term and long term human growth, people individually as we age, and people as a whole. Bullies seem to back off when they think what their doing is either stupid, wrong, or unbenificial. Any way it stops though, it stops eventually. I think I'll end on that... i've ranted enough here!
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Postby Henohenomoheji » Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:00 am

is it just me, or have you told us this story before? i could have sworn there was another story somewhere in the forum that says somebody beat somebody up for the same reason.<br><br>
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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:53 am

Yeah there was a topic with bullying stories.<br>And you're right Foxchild, they do tend to cease.
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Postby Zylo » Sun Dec 14, 2003 3:13 am

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> why are people like us considered "natural targets" or something like that? and do we outnumber them?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd-->I've never understood that. Didn't it always seem like only about 25% of the student population was 'popular'? It's always seemed like the outcasts were the majority and the minority (a.k.a the popular people) ruled. I guess it's because the popular minority was about 100 times more visable. As I said, I never ot physically bullied, but I did recieve several serious threats and even a few death threats. The death threats were mostly just guys being tough; I never took them seriously, as I figured they would never act on it. Luckily, they never did. Of course I was also best friends at the time with this guy Leon, who, in the 8th grade, was arrested for threatening to bring a gun to school and shoot up his hit list. I wasn't really friends with him anymore in the months leading up to that, but for a while I did have the local psychopath on my side. Arund 8th grade, I actually had a few friends who were somewhat popular, but I was more or less the butt of every joke; the group punching bag; but I stuck with them because all my old friends had either moved or went kinda psycho (like Leon). After Columbine, I didn't get teased as much by my so-called popular 'friends,' as I became more or less the most likely person to kill everyone, which I found hilarious. I've never been in a fight in my life, and probably couldn't last for 10 seconds in a fight, but people feared me because I was the quiet 'A'-student who always got teased and listened to heavy MEHTUL (wow, does this story sound farmiliar? I'll have to find the link to the story where Ozy got sent to the psychiatrist). Luckily, I never got called to the psychiatrist, but it was kind of a funny time, as I was definately incapable of harming anyone.
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Postby Tavis » Sun Dec 14, 2003 3:35 am

<a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.org/1999/om19991126.html' target='_blank'>I do realize that technically that should say "whom." But nobody talks that way.</a><br><br>Is THIS the strip you requested, Ozymandias the Great? I knew the story was shortly followed by the uniforms, and Ozy had his "Britney Spears" quote at the beginning of 2000. That put my guess in late Nov/early Dec 1999

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Postby Zylo » Sun Dec 14, 2003 3:51 am

Yea. Thanks, Tavis.
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Postby Foxchild » Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:51 am

iyestorm, no sorry. I've never related that story here, I'd remember that. <br><br>OTG, yeah! after columbine, i had a similar expierience. Actually, i've had people tell me recently that i'm the type of person they fear most (the type that will look around with seemingly no real aim, and then say something completely and randomly off topic, although i don't do that quite as often as i used to!)
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