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Postby Ruedii-X » Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:34 pm

-- Edit, ooops, that was Luke 3:16 <br>On John 3:16 I have a different comment People tend to forget John 3:17 when quoting John 3:16 Their reason probably has to do with John 3:20, but only God can judge them on that.<br>-- end edit.<br><br>BTW, the quote I read from was one of the older editions I have, it was translated 1953, so uses a lot of older language, and hasn't been corrected for a few gramatical errors in the orriginal latin translation of several verses. I do not believe this verse was affected too much by the translations issues, though, if I recall loose, was put to the modern word Loosen, and the gramar was put into active voice there, as many of the early latin translations, like the one this edition was based on used an excessive ammount of passive voice, as it was standard practice in latin at the time.<br><br>I generally don't lecture people on such things, but I felt it was necessary to explane that to any of the right-wingers out there who don't know how to interpret translations. Generally I refrain from such statements unless necessary.<br><br>BTW, If David is saying something there, he may want to be less subtile. I can only pick up subtileties to a certain degree, and that one is missing any polarity. I'm one of the best at subleties and I can only pick up that the subject is on his mind. The fact that it was a less frequently quoted verse is quite interesting, though . . . I should take a more detailed look at that frame.<br><br>BTW, if he wants a few good quotes try Leviticus 19:17-18, Leviticus 19:34, Leviticus 35-37 Interesting how some people try to justify their actions by calling people sinners when they can't follow the rules themselves. Of course I can't judge a person for that as I'm far from perfect myself. I can only judge the validity of their statements based on their other actions, not them personally. Everyone makes mistakes.

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Postby Ruedii-X » Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:52 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Ozymandias+Dec 15 2004, 11:39 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ozymandias @ Dec 15 2004, 11:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> John 3:16 reads:<br><br> 16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.<br><br>Footnotes:<br><br> a. John 3:16 Or his only begotten Son<br><br><br>Which is ironic because it looks like Shelley gave up Ozy<br><br>I love babby Ozy - so cute! <!--emo&:wub:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/wub.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wub.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Well, now that you mention it I wonder if she made a deal with the dragons for something other than the rubber chicken, like aid in disappearing from the chaos, and gaurenteed care for Ozy.<br><br>After, all Shelly may seem like the type that likes a little stir, but she probably would hate the corporate war her ice cream flavor would bring on. I have a feeling we'll never find out what the flavor was.<br><br>Yeah, and I know I keep spelling Yang, Yan, it's an alternate spelling, the less acknowleged one, yin and ying are more frequently switched around. Much like Chi has 3 different possible spellings. (don't make me look them up.) Chinese dialects are a strange thing.

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Postby Bendarr » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:36 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-dragonranpu+Dec 15 2004, 11:52 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (dragonranpu @ Dec 15 2004, 11:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> You mean like the Icecream make you dissapaer Like vanish.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'>Possibly so. I mean haven't you ever heard of VANISHING (ice)CREAM? </span> </span>
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Postby Talitha » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:37 pm

Ahh, yes, the loop hole of "was". DCS is a wiley one. Looks like I was wrong. <!--emo&-_---><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /sleep.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sleep.gif' /><!--endemo--> <br><br>It's probably a good thing for us too. Maybe Ozy's mom will pop up sometime and become a regular character. That'd be neat. <br><br>Maybe now that Ozy knows the truth, he'll go on a noble quest to save his mother from the evil fire-breathing dra-*SHOT* <!--emo&:lol:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:lol:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:lol:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' /><!--endemo--> <br><br>Okay, I'll shut up now. <!--emo&:mellow:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... mellow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mellow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Postby Foxchild » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:46 pm

hey, so long as his mother doesn't scream out "SHAVE ME" as a feral green dragon drags her off into the back of a castle, while you run through and survive by some strange luck, and as long as ozy doesn't call himself "Dirk", i think we're good! (Dragon's Lair, one of the greatest full motion videogames ever).<br><br>I do fel really sorry for ozy in that last panel, though. so cute, and... well, alone <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Postby Dr. Dos » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:23 pm

There must be a vortex to Locke's World and due to a lack of having contructed a fort with cushions above it she couldn't find an exit.
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Postby GhostWay » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:37 am

It's quite simple. Obviously, the creation of this ice cream triggered a space-time contradiction where the forgotten memory was actually restored at the point it was forgotten; that is, the memory was never forgotten. However, the consumer of this ice cream would be able to recognize that he had remembered something forgotten, but it would appear that it was indeed never forgotten at all. Sine this is, of course, impossible, a space time vortex materialized...no, that's not the correct word. It suddenly existed, and then proceeded to not exist several moments later. But not before absorbing everyone who had tasted this ice cream.<br><br><br>.........I've been watching too much Star Trek, haven't I?
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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:08 am

At first I was thinking "Ohh! Vortex behind the couch or something!" but the ice cream side effect thing seems to have more merit.<br><br>And I wonder about Ozy's dad, where's he in the picture?
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Postby Ruedii-X » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:08 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Burning Sheep Productions+Dec 15 2004, 10:08 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Burning Sheep Productions @ Dec 15 2004, 10:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> At first I was thinking "Ohh! Vortex behind the couch or something!" but the ice cream side effect thing seems to have more merit.<br><br>And I wonder about Ozy's dad, where's he in the picture? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Then again, a dragon conspiracy per-request as I suggested is a good option.<br><br>After all, it would be the other thing they would accept as a deal, other than a rubber chicken. If she'd ask for gold from them, the dragons would just look at her funny, ask whay she wanted such rubbish. And then if she insisted, they'd go for an irony conspiracy, and drop her off a 1 killoton solid block of gold that she could never find a buyer for.<br><br>That 20% chance I gave has just greatly expanded, now it's about a 10% chance that she was frozen. However, it's still possible, then again, that may be his father's story.

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Postby Ozymandias » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:47 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Ruedii-X+Dec 16 2004, 04:08 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ruedii-X @ Dec 16 2004, 04:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> And then if she insisted, they'd go for an irony conspiracy, and drop her off a 1 killoton solid block of gold that she could never find a buyer for. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Why would they give her gold if it was an iron-y conspiracy? <!--emo&:P--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Postby Henohenomoheji » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:38 pm

Darn, I'm like, the last person to the "Locke's Universe" theory... and I thought of it yesterday...<br><br>I'm almost surprised that there are no *POOF* clouds. Based on babby Ozy's reaction, you'd think there would be some...<br><br>In response to Ozymandias:<br><br>To test her <b>mettle</b>.
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Postby Muninn » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:54 pm

Her discovery created an imbalance in the ice cream industry which the dragons have a tight command of.<br><br>But i don't think we've seen any malicious dragons in the comic yet.

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Postby Tavis » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:47 pm

They might just be keeping all the ice cream for themselves. Big coverup and all.<br><br>"... Goo?"<br><br>Aww, poor Ozy. That last panel really tugs at the heartstrings.

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Postby VisibilityMissing » Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:07 pm

You know, I'm surprised at this group: with all the pyromaniacs, you'd think someone would suggest it.<br><br>Spontaneous Vulpine Combustion<br><br> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... iggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>On another note:<br><br>One of the best ways to start an argument is to say something about religion, so I'll do my very best here to start another debate. . . <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <br><br>Some of us might be overthinking the inclusion of the sign reading "John 3:16" in the background of this week's strip. It seems that is also the verse that has somehow been added to lots of signs over the years by fans of rock stars and celebrities.<br><br>However, something that jumped out of the <a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2004/om20041213.html' target='_blank'>previous strip</a> for me was how closely the pattern followed the temptation of Jesus in the desert (Matt 4). Now, I don't think we want to attach any godly or messianic qualities to either of these characters, but this may be an indication that good stories repeat themselves.
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