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Postby DesertFoxCat » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:57 pm

They'll be able to read our destroyed computers, but they can't invent time travel.<br><br>Now I'll never know who really killed JFK <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Postby Gizensha » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:01 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-DesertFoxCat+Dec 1 2005, 03:57 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (DesertFoxCat @ Dec 1 2005, 03:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> They'll be able to read our destroyed computers, but they can't invent time travel.<br><br>Now I'll never know who really killed JFK <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> If you invented time travel and went back five hundred years, would you <i>advertise</i> that fact, or would you try and blend in?
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Postby Richard K Niner » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:06 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here.
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Postby DesertFoxCat » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:13 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 11:01 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> If you invented time travel and went back five hundred years, would you <i>advertise</i> that fact, or would you try and blend in? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> I would probably be an escaped patient from an insane asylum bent on world domination of the past.<br><br>Maybe that's how Bush got elected...

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Postby Gizensha » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:04 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:17 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Well, both techniques are quite effective. As for the smashing of existing drives, that's only our policy for floppies (just checked). Probably because they're easier to replace.
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Postby Gizensha » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:05 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, both techniques are quite effective. As for the smashing of existing drives, that's only our policy for floppies (just checked). Probably because they're easier to replace. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> ...People still use floppies?<br><br>...Seriously. People still use floppies?
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<!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, both techniques are quite effective. As for the smashing of existing drives, that's only our policy for floppies (just checked). Probably because they're easier to replace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>...People still use floppies?<br><br>...Seriously. People still use floppies? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Floppies! A good way to transfer super-high-secret intelligence data, since they're so obsolete ,no computer has the capability to read them! XP
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Postby Foxchild » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:42 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Traysandor Vulpine+Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Traysandor Vulpine @ Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, both techniques are quite effective. As for the smashing of existing drives, that's only our policy for floppies (just checked). Probably because they're easier to replace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>...People still use floppies?<br><br>...Seriously. People still use floppies? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Floppies! A good way to transfer super-high-secret intelligence data, since they're so obsolete ,no computer has the capability to read them! XP <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> QUOTE TREE!!!!<br><br><br><br>.... I mean... I still use floppies, or would. When scanning pictures and wanting to upload the small versions, no reason to waste a CD burning a 148kb image.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Bocaj Claw+Dec 1 2005, 07:47 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Bocaj Claw @ Dec 1 2005, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-FoxChild+Dec 1 2005, 02:42 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FoxChild @ Dec 1 2005, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Traysandor Vulpine+Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Traysandor Vulpine @ Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, both techniques are quite effective. As for the smashing of existing drives, that's only our policy for floppies (just checked). Probably because they're easier to replace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>...People still use floppies?<br><br>...Seriously. People still use floppies? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Floppies! A good way to transfer super-high-secret intelligence data, since they're so obsolete ,no computer has the capability to read them! XP <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>QUOTE TREE!!!!<br><br><br><br>.... I mean... I still use floppies, or would. When scanning pictures and wanting to upload the small versions, no reason to waste a CD burning a 148kb image. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I generally just email stuff to myself. Save both a cd and a floppy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> I generally use my USB pen. 1GB in a size small enough to eat if I was that way inclined to... You know.... Eat USB drives.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:40 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:00 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bocaj Claw+Dec 1 2005, 07:47 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Bocaj Claw @ Dec 1 2005, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-FoxChild+Dec 1 2005, 02:42 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FoxChild @ Dec 1 2005, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Traysandor Vulpine+Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Traysandor Vulpine @ Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, both techniques are quite effective. As for the smashing of existing drives, that's only our policy for floppies (just checked). Probably because they're easier to replace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>...People still use floppies?<br><br>...Seriously. People still use floppies? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Floppies! A good way to transfer super-high-secret intelligence data, since they're so obsolete ,no computer has the capability to read them! XP <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>QUOTE TREE!!!!<br><br><br><br>.... I mean... I still use floppies, or would. When scanning pictures and wanting to upload the small versions, no reason to waste a CD burning a 148kb image. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I generally just email stuff to myself. Save both a cd and a floppy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I generally use my USB pen. 1GB in a size small enough to eat if I was that way inclined to... You know.... Eat USB drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>We tend to use floppies because, a) all of our computers are old enough to have them, <!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo--> upgrading our system is 1000% more expensive for the government (no, really), c) not all of our computers have USB on them, d) Burning CDs takes longer, e) most of our files aren't even 1 MB in size, and f) e-mail just isn't that secure.<br><br>At least, that's what I hear. It's not my call. (And I've yet to run across a <b>workstation</b> computer without a floppy drive.)
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Postby Gizensha » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:04 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 08:40 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:00 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bocaj Claw+Dec 1 2005, 07:47 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Bocaj Claw @ Dec 1 2005, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-FoxChild+Dec 1 2005, 02:42 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FoxChild @ Dec 1 2005, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Traysandor Vulpine+Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Traysandor Vulpine @ Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, both techniques are quite effective. As for the smashing of existing drives, that's only our policy for floppies (just checked). Probably because they're easier to replace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>...People still use floppies?<br><br>...Seriously. People still use floppies? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Floppies! A good way to transfer super-high-secret intelligence data, since they're so obsolete ,no computer has the capability to read them! XP <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>QUOTE TREE!!!!<br><br><br><br>.... I mean... I still use floppies, or would. When scanning pictures and wanting to upload the small versions, no reason to waste a CD burning a 148kb image. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I generally just email stuff to myself. Save both a cd and a floppy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I generally use my USB pen. 1GB in a size small enough to eat if I was that way inclined to... You know.... Eat USB drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>We tend to use floppies because, a) all of our computers are old enough to have them, <!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo--> upgrading our system is 1000% more expensive for the government (no, really), c) not all of our computers have USB on them, d) Burning CDs takes longer, e) most of our files aren't even 1 MB in size, and f) e-mail just isn't that secure.<br><br>At least, that's what I hear. It's not my call. (And I've yet to run across a <b>workstation</b> computer without a floppy drive.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Unfortunately floppies are slow, and are only good for a hundred uses.<br><br>As for upgrading computer systems - shouldn't be 1000% more expensive. Even my college that gets ripped off royally is only dealing with 50% more expensive.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:44 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 04:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 04:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 08:40 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:00 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bocaj Claw+Dec 1 2005, 07:47 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Bocaj Claw @ Dec 1 2005, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-FoxChild+Dec 1 2005, 02:42 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FoxChild @ Dec 1 2005, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Traysandor Vulpine+Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Traysandor Vulpine @ Dec 1 2005, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 1 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gizensha+Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Gizensha @ Dec 1 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Dec 1 2005, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> There's a difference between keeping it functioning and keeping it readable. A server may become totally unusable and yet it is possible for a forensic team (or future archaeologists) to extract the device, determine its physical condition when it was being destroyed and disposed, and then proceed to collect data from its drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Store it near a strong magnet, however, and wave bye bye to any readability it may have had. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>You'd be amazed how hard it is to render data on a hard drive unreadable.<br><br>The typical recommendation is to break the discs into tiny pieces. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I thought it was to overwrite the data seven times with random serieses of 1s and 0s. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Smashing it to smithereens is faster, especially on today's large drives. It's also the prescribed method of deleting confidential information on some of our systems here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Really? I think the prescribed way of wiping data from British military computers is to write over it seven times with random data.<br><br>I suppose the best way of dealing with it would be a combination method, really. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, both techniques are quite effective. As for the smashing of existing drives, that's only our policy for floppies (just checked). Probably because they're easier to replace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>...People still use floppies?<br><br>...Seriously. People still use floppies? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Floppies! A good way to transfer super-high-secret intelligence data, since they're so obsolete ,no computer has the capability to read them! XP <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>QUOTE TREE!!!!<br><br><br><br>.... I mean... I still use floppies, or would. When scanning pictures and wanting to upload the small versions, no reason to waste a CD burning a 148kb image. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I generally just email stuff to myself. Save both a cd and a floppy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I generally use my USB pen. 1GB in a size small enough to eat if I was that way inclined to... You know.... Eat USB drives. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>We tend to use floppies because, a) all of our computers are old enough to have them, <!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo--> upgrading our system is 1000% more expensive for the government (no, really), c) not all of our computers have USB on them, d) Burning CDs takes longer, e) most of our files aren't even 1 MB in size, and f) e-mail just isn't that secure.<br><br>At least, that's what I hear. It's not my call. (And I've yet to run across a <b>workstation</b> computer without a floppy drive.) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Unfortunately floppies are slow, and are only good for a hundred uses.<br><br>As for upgrading computer systems - shouldn't be 1000% more expensive. Even my college that gets ripped off royally is only dealing with 50% more expensive. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> You'd be amazed at how much it costs the government here. My boss was trying to get a dedicated server for our web site, to make the migration from IC to ITCan run smoothly (and so that he wouldn't have to pay IC for a server that kept crashing).<br><br>To put it simply, he called up a vendor, and asked around. The quote they gave him was x per month (I don't know the actual number). Even though he never mentioned it during the call (or identified himself), we had another server from them, being rented at 11x per month (with worse specs).<br><br>Needless to say, he cancelled the older rental before I returned in the fall (but after getting the new server at the lower price).<br><br>The fact is, the moment companies find out that you're the Canadian government, they'll increase their quotes <i>a lot</i>.
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