Early Creative Efforts

[Gizensha]

Very nice joke there. The old style, while both technically and aesthetically inferior to the new style (and, sorry to anyone who says that it's cuter, but wake up and look at Millie's fangs <!--emo&:fangs:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /fangs.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fangs.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), did rather give early O&M a far more distinctive look than the current style.<br><br>Though that isn't to say that the style change wasn't an improvement.

[KingOfKings]

I'm so confused.<br><br>I mean, I get the joke, but...I don't know, the improved line art seems to make the old character designs look worse than they used to or something. And I'm not sure if that was intended. Maybe they just look bad because the old style and new style are side to side and its like placing even Simpsons best work next to the Mona Lisa. I dunno.

[Bocaj Claw]

It doesn't matter if it looks exactly how it looked years ago. It looks similar enough... thats a big feat considering that Simson has been with the current style for more years then the other.

[Ibun]

<!--QuoteBegin-KingOfKings+Jul 15 2005, 08:27 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (KingOfKings @ Jul 15 2005, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> I'm so confused.<br><br>I mean, I get the joke, but...I don't know, the improved line art seems to make the old character designs look worse than they used to or something. And I'm not sure if that was intended. Maybe they just look bad because the old style and new style are side to side and its like placing even Simpsons best work next to the Mona Lisa. I dunno. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> *sticks a match in your hair and lights it* <!--emo&:flee:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/flee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='flee.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Caoimhin]

I did notice that Ozy is a little more lanky than in the earlier stirps. Also I happen to think that the fangs on Millie kinda fit her personality (actually she is the only fox out of the three that acts like the stereotype of a mischievious fox. I wouldn't be surprised if she started stealing chickens... Well if they aren't human-like in the strip. Has anyone seen a personified chicken in this strip?) and they actually do make her look cuter for some odd reason <!--emo&:vamp2:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... mpire2.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='vampire2.gif' /><!--endemo-->. But also don't forget I think Ozy and Millie were 8 years old in the original strips and now I think they are technically 10. So even though the style changed it fits because even though it was only 2 years there would have to be at least some change in the characters. Ozy probably got a little taller and maybe Millie had lost her babie fangs when the original strips took place and then her adult fangs grew in <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... iggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> .You could look at it that way. Of course DCS isn't going to change the style every two years in the characters' lives but its an interesting thought in the context of the wacky world they live in. One thing I did notice is that the old style had more of a rounded look to it if that makes sense. Less of a point to various features on Ozy and Millie. Also their feet got smaller in the newer style (how I explain that in the context of the world I have no clue and don't worry I'm not going to try <!--emo&:P--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->). The inking style is also slightly different. I like both styles though I think that Ozy being lanky fits his personality. So I look at the new style as emphazizing certain aspects of the characters' personality or at least in Ozy and Millie. Did i right to much on this critique <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> ?

[Dr. Doog]

yeah, it was more round. But DCS didn't really get it right. which is why DCS fails at failing. <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> which is good, right?

[Rooster]

I always loved the 2002 era of style, but I still like the current style. At least it changes, some cartoonists keep with the same style throughout their entire comics...like Kevin and Kell, dispite how great it is, variation is king and sometimes the same style can get dull.

[dcsimpson]

<!--QuoteBegin-DoppledangeR DooG+Jul 16 2005, 02:48 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (DoppledangeR DooG @ Jul 16 2005, 02:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> yeah, it was more round. But DCS didn't really get it right. which is why DCS fails at failing. <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> which is good, right? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> I deny having gotten it wrong, and I think I would know better than you. <!--emo&:arr:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... pirate.png' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pirate.png' /><!--endemo-->

[Kles]

While the style of the old art is there, it's definitely more "perfect" if you want to put it that way. He simply drew it better than he used to. Good strip.

[Gizensha]

<!--QuoteBegin-Kles+Jul 16 2005, 03:38 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Kles @ Jul 16 2005, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> While the style of the old art is there, it's definitely more "perfect" if you want to put it that way. He simply drew it better than he used to. Good strip. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Which kinda defeats the point of the exercise, almost.

[Tom Flapwell]

<!--QuoteBegin-Rooster+Jul 16 2005, 01:48 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Rooster @ Jul 16 2005, 01:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> At least it changes, some cartoonists keep with the same style throughout their entire comics...like Kevin and Kell, dispite how great it is, variation is king and sometimes the same style can get dull. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Bad example. Most every K&K character who was present in the first two years has changed appearance, and some keep getting new outifts. That may not be the degree you had in mind, but from what I've seen, it's more change than average.

[Tavis]

This was a really good effort to recreate the old style, but remember, there are even <a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.org/history/index.html' target='_blank'>older ones</a> that have been buried too deeply for the archives themselves. Perhaps those were the ones not meant to see the light of day?<br><br>Oops. <!--emo&:flee:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/flee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='flee.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Dr. Doog]

<!--QuoteBegin-dcsimpson+Jul 16 2005, 10:18 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (dcsimpson @ Jul 16 2005, 10:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-DoppledangeR DooG+Jul 16 2005, 02:48 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (DoppledangeR DooG @ Jul 16 2005, 02:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> yeah, it was more round. But DCS didn't really get it right. which is why DCS fails at failing. <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->  which is good, right? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I deny having gotten it wrong, and I think I would know better than you. <!--emo&:arr:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... pirate.png' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pirate.png' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> It looks slightly new styled, but I really just wanted to have a chance to say that somebody fails at failing. <!--emo&:P--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Burning Sheep Productions]

I love it when artists do this kinda thing in their comics!<br>A freaky fourth wall thingy that you can't get your head around if you try to think about it...<br><br><br>...hey new emoticons! <!--emo&:wag:--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ailwag.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tailwag.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[GhostWay]

The fourth wall hasn't broken this time. It's just gone all wobbly.