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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:54 am

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> These items are all mine; look but don't touch.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Does this mean we're not allowed to edit his strips and make them into our avatars etc.?
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Postby Doctor Fred » Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:56 am

If it does, then someone sound the sirens.
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Postby Zylo » Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:39 am

Well, I got mine from Tavis, who made it from an O&M strip, so Tavis really takes full blame for any infringement that I may be guilty of. He pirated the material first, so he's guilty of distributing stolen merchandise, I'm just an innocent pawn in his evil game. Shame on you Tavis, shame.
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Postby hdofu » Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:00 am

It was one time, and it sucked, no body even looks in the Yahoo groups section anyhow. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Postby Tavis » Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:18 am

Hey, I at least tried to edit it. The original was not animated, and I gave full credit of the originals to Simpson.<br><br><a href='http://www.geocities.com/tavis_s/art/oandm.html' target='_blank'>See for yourself</a>.. Hmm.. I really need to add links to the originals for those stills.<br><br>By the way, the bottom of virtually every archive page on the site also says:<br><!--QuoteBegin-DCS+ O&M Archives--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (DCS @ O&M Archives)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> I suppose you can redistribute these if you really want to, but don't sell 'em.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd-->

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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:38 am

So... one is saying don't touch and another is saying distribute?<br>The distribute one doesn't really say you can edit, so...<br>I think we'd better ask DC.
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Postby Tavis » Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:48 am

A very prudent and sensible suggestion. When in doubt, ask.

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Postby Foxchild » Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:40 am

was that always there? i don't remember seeing that beforehand. I saw it recently, but had seen the message under the strips waaaay beforehand, and had gotten the impresion that we weren'treally doing anything wrong because all credit was given to simpson. Probably best to ask though, as mentioned before.
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Postby Elscire » Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:08 am

Well, it is best to ask, but do we actually think he is going to have any qualms with it?<br><br>I mean, we aren't doing anything malicious, and to go against the editing that we do would be to distance himself from and kill the community..
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Postby NHJ BV » Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:14 pm

I'd doubt he would care if we use them as avatars. I did edit mine though, because there was a bush on the right of the panel. I simply copied some of the white background over it.
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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:41 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-HuffaMoose+Jan 9 2004, 06:08 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (HuffaMoose @ Jan 9 2004, 06:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> ...and to go against the editing that we do would be to distance himself from and kill the community.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Oh! You're not supposed to say that!
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Postby Muninn » Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:29 pm

Well Mr. Simpson has visited the forums before and not said anything. Besides we're not profiting from them, and using them in a forum about the comic strip itself can't be viewed as anything but respect and dedication to the comic.

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Postby norsenerd » Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:51 pm

It is my belief that MR. Simpson has said that he dosn't mind other people using the art as long as they give credit and don't profit off of it. I don't know where BSP got that quote. I don't see therfore anything wrong with what we're doing for dispite not crediting Simpson evrytime we use somethng I think it's prety obvious from the site where we get the stuff.<br><br>Also to cleer up a point even if you edit it like you have it still is property of DC Simpson. Editing it to the little degee you have dosn't change that fact as presidant can show. However with his permision that I he gave and to my knowledge not brought back it is fine anyways. He still owns all the rights to your aviators though. Fan art is questionable as can be said is Free Speach and an alagory (however a strech it may be) but the copied and soemtimes sparcly aalterd images/animations remain property of DC Simpson. As well as Cigans colorings too I'm afraid.
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Postby Sabre » Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:05 pm

I made mine. *Gets punched*

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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:42 am

You made THAT!!?<br>Wow, I never knew.<br><br>And I got that quote from the bottom of the main page.
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