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<!--QuoteBegin-Miles Cerulean Celebi Prower+Jun 11 2004, 10:16 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Miles Cerulean Celebi Prower @ Jun 11 2004, 10:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Doctor Fred+Jun 10 2004, 11:26 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Doctor Fred @ Jun 10 2004, 11:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-Miles Cerulean Celebi Prower+--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Miles Cerulean Celebi Prower)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Considering that not too many people out there know that Ozy and Millie even exists, the movie would very likely have to be of relatively low budget, probably costing less than $1 million U.S. Dollars to make.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>No, no American film could possibly cost less than $1 million. For a low-budget flick, you'd have to be talking under $20 million. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Looks like you need to broaden your vision a bit, Dr. Fred... Such movies DO exist in America; such movies have been made and can be produced by no-name independent companies... in fact, anyone who's got a camcorder can technically make a movie...you're thinking along the lines of a low-budget major label production.<br><br>Virtually all independently made movies don't cost anywhere near $20 million to make. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Well, of course <i>independant</i> films could be made with the change under your couch coushins. There is that exception. But feature length animated films take much more time to animate than live action ones take to shoot. The time, labor, and money put into it would be considerable. If it were to cost under a million smackas' then the animation quality would have to be really cheap. That's exeptable for internet films or South Park-esque tv shows, but for cinema you've got to aim for quality.

Donnie Darko was an extremely low budget movie, that is better than any movie i've ever seen. I don't know the figures but i don't believe the actors got paid, they all just wanted a part in it. We're talking Jake Gyllenhall, Drew Barrymore, and Patrick Swayze for example.

I made an 8-minute animated cartoon in about 8 months for the cost of a new computer that could handle that sort of thing. I did all the art for it. It was tiring. The animation was crappy and the audio didn't line up, but I got an A+ in art for it!

I've always thought O&M as more anime potential than movie. As I was going through the archive today, I could practically see a perfect ending/closing sequence for a O&M anime. It was to Nancy Kenyon's "Take My Hand". If I can draw them correctly, I might try to do a minute and a half sequence with DCS's permission.

To me, the Ozy and Millie movie could be wonderful beyond anything or horrible beyond anything. I can *really* see both sides.

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> To me, the Ozy and Millie movie could be wonderful beyond anything or horrible beyond anything. I can *really* see both sides.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>As stated earlier, the reunion storyline is the only thing remotely closest to fit in a movie. Still then, there would have to be a subplot to cover at least 90 minutes.<br><br>If there was a movie, I'd also like to see just a few (maybe one or two) OzyxMillie coupling hints (kinda like the Oct 4, 2002 strip but not as blatent).

Hehe, that'd be funny.

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> If there was a movie, I'd also like to see just a few (maybe one or two) OzyxMillie coupling hints (kinda like the Oct 4, 2002 strip but not as blatent). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>That would add a nice little spice to the movie... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>The Greater Llewellyn Vacation Getaway substory would probably make another good subplot as well... I could see that eating up a good 10 or 15 minutes of movie time. Or even do the 2000 Election Story... though this would have fared much better had it been done around 2000...<br><br>[Edit] Or you could do the one where Millie and Locke take over Llewellynland... great way to get a pirate voice into the movie <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

With so many story arcs it'd work better as a TV series.

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> With so many story arcs it'd work better as a TV series.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Exactly. Perfect setup for a anime-style miniseries.<br><br>EDIT:<br><br>And "Come As You Are" really does sound like it will work as a opening theme. Who does that song?

I agree that O&M would deal with less difficulties if it were a TV show instead of a movie, but people seem to be under the impression that an O&M movie would have to have all or most story arcs there ever were in the series incorporated into the movie. Granted, coming up with a storyline that could span 90 to 120 minutes would be a chalenge considering this is a strip that is so used to telling stories that end so quickly. But it can be done, trust me.<br><br>I agree with Dragon Wing. This could succeed in a huge way or it could fail in a huge way.

Really? I always thought they were a nice length and most comics dragged these things out.<br><br>"Boy, I just have no frame of reference."

Yeah, but those story arcs could only stretch out for 30 minutes of airtime tops.

I say comics should, for the most part, stay as comics. For the most part, O&M is told in short snippets. I think trying to streach it into a medium that requires long, developed stories may compromise it.<br><br>That and I'm still having a hard time supressing vomiting at the sight of the Garfield movie. Obviously, the comic sucked to start with, but still, it's just more proof that comic strips should not be on film.

Actually, Garfield is an example of why comic strips (or any cartoons for that matter) should not be adapted into <i>live action</i> film. If it were still animated it would have been less vomit enducing.<br><br>And as for the dilema of creating an O&M story that would take up at least 90 minutes and still not betray the strip's "short snippet" feel, yes that would be difficult. But a little creativity and avoidance from formulaic writing would go a long way.