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Postby UltimateVG » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:19 pm

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> let's do like the navy and use subliminal, liminal, and proliminal<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Subliminal = Flash "http://www.ozyandmillie.com" in the taskbar for a split second on the 3rd hour<br><br>Liminal = Put a link to O&M on the program's main window<br><br>Superliminal = Change the user's homepage to O&M =P<br><br>No, I'm not doing the superliminal and my program is named Board Desktop.

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Postby Dr. Doog » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:02 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Dr. Dos+Jul 21 2004, 11:08 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Dr. Dos @ Jul 21 2004, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> *joins na-*<br><br>Actually we'll save that one for hobo. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> ... i bet i wish i got that.<br><br>Doog got that and then went to play pingpong with my other sub-egos. i'm lying here trying to figure it out while licking chocolate of of my computer.
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Postby Zaaphod » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:16 am

<!--QuoteBegin-UltimateVG+Jul 22 2004, 08:19 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (UltimateVG @ Jul 22 2004, 08:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Superliminal = Change the user's homepage to O&M =P<br> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Hehehe! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... iggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>I don't remember where I heard about it (maybe it was this very message board), but a college network admin actually did that to his college's network. EVERY computer on the network had their home page set to O&M. <!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo--><br>
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Postby Softpaw » Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:11 am

I did it at my high school, every computer in the city's entire school district (eight buildings, almost 20,000 computers) had the homepage set to www.ozyandmillie.org for a day <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Postby Tavis » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:20 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Zaaphod+Jul 22 2004, 08:16 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Zaaphod @ Jul 22 2004, 08:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <!--QuoteBegin-UltimateVG+Jul 22 2004, 08:19 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (UltimateVG @ Jul 22 2004, 08:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Superliminal = Change the user's homepage to O&M =P<br> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Hehehe! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... iggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>I don't remember where I heard about it (maybe it was this very message board), but a college network admin actually did that to his college's network. EVERY computer on the network had their home page set to O&M. <!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Try <a href='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... owtopic=24' target='_blank'>O&M Sharing</a>.. it's in there somewhere.

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Postby Zaaphod » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:31 am

<!--QuoteBegin-FelixLockhart+Jul 22 2004, 08:11 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FelixLockhart @ Jul 22 2004, 08:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> I did it at my high school, every computer in the city's entire school district (eight buildings, almost 20,000 computers) had the homepage set to www.ozyandmillie.org for a day <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> That's it! Thanks for the reminder Felix and Tavis. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br><br>(Here's <a href='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... post&p=307' target='_blank'>the post in question</a>)<br>
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Postby Zylo » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:40 am

Hmmm...I don't have access to the school's network, but a friend of mine can gain administrative access, mess with the servers, and can/has hacked the nework. Maybe I can convince him to do it for me.
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Postby UltimateVG » Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:21 pm

This is a example of liminal advertising:<br><br><img src='http://furcalley.digibase.ca/landmark1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

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Postby Ozymandias » Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:52 pm

lol I actually had to read that. So its therefore good. Nice work.
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Postby Zylo » Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:50 am

Liminal seems most effective. It actually requires your attention. Superliminal is never taken seriously, and cubliminal is often missed/innefective, but in a case like that where you actually have to read to get the message, it stands out more.
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Postby mrpwase » Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:04 pm

Well, I certainly didn't miss <i>cub</i>liminal. <!--emo&:P--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>The problem with subliminal messaging is that you're not really meaningfully getting people interested in O&M - you're just forcing them to read it whether they like it or not. And you'd need a lot of subliminal messages to achieve even that.<br><br>The best way is just to tell as many people as possible, constantly. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... iggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Postby Ozymandias » Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:37 pm

the really big problem with subliminal is its borderline illegal. If u flash it at them then they can't help but realise it, whereas they can choose to ignore a whole TV ad for, say, a power drill. It could be deemed as violation of human rights.
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Postby Gizensha » Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:15 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Ozymandias+Jul 25 2004, 09:37 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ozymandias @ Jul 25 2004, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> the really big problem with subliminal is its borderline illegal. If u flash it at them then they can't help but realise it, whereas they can choose to ignore a whole TV ad for, say, a power drill. It could be deemed as violation of human rights. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> To my knowledge it's illegal to broadcast subliminally in the UK, but not to... Say... Put subliminals into computer games. Dunno about the states.
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Postby Tavis » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:11 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Ozymandias+Jul 25 2004, 03:37 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ozymandias @ Jul 25 2004, 03:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> the really big problem with subliminal is its borderline illegal. If u flash it at them then they can't help but realise it, whereas they can choose to ignore a whole TV ad for, say, a power drill. It could be deemed as violation of human rights. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Movies and television these days have another advertising medium called product placement. Advertisers (Kablammo Cola for this example) would pay some movie producer to have a lead character drink the cola in the movie in such a way as to leave the Kablammo trademark plainly visible or maybe sneak in the phrase "It's Paparrific" somewhere. It gives advertisers what they want by forcing audiences to see their product because it's blended in with the movie the audience is trying to watch.

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Postby Gizensha » Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:58 am

Another fun thing in uk law with this. While product placement isn't illegal as such, it's illegal for any emphasis to be made on said product placement. And you can't name brands in gameshow prizes. (has to be 'a games console' never 'an x-box', for example)<br><br>It's a fuzzy line, actually, over here as to what's illegal and what isn't when it comes to product placement, although it should be noted that the thing has been going on since the 70s (The Dalek Invasion of Earth movie features advert posters for Sugar Puffs, for example)<br><br>However, product placement has started getting into gaming, not called product placement as such but the principle is the same. An early example is the featuring of Red Bull in Worms 3D as a health restorative item.
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