Fan made Ozy and Millie cartoon episodes! - HELP NEEDED!!

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Postby MandoAndy » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:55 am

ImAWAffle - Yes, the beginning... basically when ozy and millie first met.

Tum0spoo - nope, I haven't posted the script over here yet. it is posted in the forums that Moddex set up, however!

Gizensha - I understand what you're talking about, but I doubt we'll be able to even find adequate voice acting for every character only at the DC forums; if only because there are so many characters! also, I want to apologize in case my remarks sounded insulting or anything. it wasn't intended :)
I'm simply saying that, as an unprofessional project that's being done for fun, while quality is desirable, I can't help wonder if it's more desirable to have as good a quality as we can or more desirable to have a feeling of ultimate ownership, as a community? Both are valid directions, I suppose, I'm just throwing this up before it spirals into something you didn't originally intend.
I know this... I appreciate and understand what you're saying. However, I was planning on doing this on my own for a long time. I came here to try to find enthusiasm, help, and the blessings of DCS to continue with this project. If it's a choice between a high quality finished product, or a sense of ultimate ownership as a community, I can see both options as being desirable. However, I do side with high quality, at the moment. I was the one who instigated this and planned it out, and the only person I'd hand over control to would be Dana or Moddex, simply because that's who I would trust. I see this as more than something we're doing for fun - I do want to view this as something that could be professional. I don't want it to reflect poorly on Ozy and Millie, or DCS, or... well, myself, to be quite honest. That may be egotistical of me, but if my name is involved with something, I want to know that it's really good. It's the truth.
High quality is nice. "This is neat because my little community did that without any help from outside" is also nice. (a collective form of the individual "This is neat because I did this without any help from outside, basically). Considering I'm thinking that any animation of this nature would mainly entertain us, I can't help but wonder if the highest quality theoretically obtainable from an amateur project is the right nice to persue?
Yeah, I think it is the right 'nice' to pursue, frankly. I don't see why we shouldn't aim for the highest quality theoretically obtainable. I want to have something created that would be enjoyable not just to fans of Ozy and Millie, but to everyone - including those who have never heard of it before. Besides, it's not like I've actually gotten any help from anyone else other than at Define Cynical. I haven't even posted about this project anywhere else (excluding Moddex's special forums).

In fact, I haven't even gotten quite the response I was hoping to have from here. I've read that a lot of people would love to see this completed, and that's awesome! And I've also read how people would love to help out, but they don't know how, so I should contact them if I need them - that's also great, but a little tough for me to...uh...organize, for lack of a better word. And at one point I think I had around 7 writers willing to help out, but there have only been two people who have written drafts for the script yet, excluding myself. I think we've got something great so far, but apart from that, there hasn't been anything else I've seen come to fruition from the other fans here. Not counting the voice acting, which in the long run, is a very small part of the creation process, and while desperately needed, isn't a big concern of mine right now. If I'd have gotten a bigger constructive response from the fans here, then maybe I'd have a more optimistic outlook on a project that was created solely "by fans, for fans" of O&M.

I'd love to have this be a fan-based DC community project, as long as everyone is actually willing to really dig their heels into it! :D I know a lot of people have valid reasons (like...um, life!) for not being able to help, and that's OK. But unless I get a lot of people from here instantly willing to give 125% of themselves to the project, I want to know that there are other places to turn for help on the project, in addition to DC.

...but anywho...

sorry for the rant. I've been having these feelings build up for a little while now anyways, and this was an opportune moment to rant about them. don't take it critically or as me being harsh, please. after proofreading this message again and again, I still feel that this is the best way for me to word the feelings I've been having.

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Postby Kyler Thatch » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:32 am

It's okay, Andy, I completely understand your need to rant. And just for the record, I'm reviewing the current scripts and seeing if I can make improvements on them. It just takes time for me to actually accomplish things

As long as we're still in control on what's going on with the production, in my opinion, I believe we can still claim full ownership for the finished product, or at least the feeling of it. I agree with MandoAndy, I'd feel much better having quality results. Otherwise, it just wouldn't do the cartoon justice.
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Postby osprey » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:57 am

Like I said on the other forums, I am training for a new position at work, so I cannot write a decent script. However, if you want a small start to one, I'll send one to you tomorrow.
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Postby Niko123000 » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:49 am

I'd love to have this be a fan-based DC community project, as long as everyone is actually willing to really dig their heels into it! I know a lot of people have valid reasons (like...um, life!) for not being able to help, and that's OK. But unless I get a lot of people from here instantly willing to give 125% of themselves to the project, I want to know that there are other places to turn for help on the project, in addition to DC.
Believe me, I'm one of those that would be willing to pour 150% into it! I'm on summer vacation so I'm basically bored, but I've always had dreams of being part of Ozy and Millie Webisodes, and now that I have that chance, I'm gonna hold that chance dire close like Millie hold Ernest close (for lack of a better analogy :p). Even when summer vacation is over and I will have school again, I'll STILL take every chance I get to help in this.

One of the only things that stinks is that I can really only offer my voice. I can write stories, but not scripts. and I don't have a real good animnating program, only UnFREEze. I also don't have the *ehem* best drawing hand so I wouldn't be able to helpo there either. and so far only 1 person has followed up on my posting this project elsewhere, ONLY ONE!

I'll still do whatever I can, I'll offer my comments, criticizem, and voice to make this Project get out odf our dreams and into reality!

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Postby MandoAndy » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:57 pm

You guys are awesome :D I'm so glad I've got your support. As long as the enthusiasm stays up, I think we could have a mind-boggle worthy cartoon by the time we're finished - and of course we'll be able to do it as fans!! don't worry about feeling pressured into writing the scripts or anything, because, like I said, I understand you've all got lives! haha! But I am really glad to see that most everyone is willing to put in over 100%, however logicless that notion may be in the first place ^_^ but THIS IS A PLACE WITH NO LOGIC! WE CAN AND SHALL DO WHAT WE WANT! And if an AWESOME ozy and millie webisode is what we, as a community, want - I'm confident that we'll get it!!

I really do appreciate anything you guys could do to help. Thanks! Osprey, don't worry about it - I'm going to be away at a friend's house for the next 3 days or so anyways, so I wont have an internet connection even. but I'll begin being a nitpick and everything starting next week, of course! savvy?

I'm excited again! I'll keep drawing - you guys keep writing when you can and practice your speaking voices!! Arrr!!

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Postby Ranma-chan » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:13 pm

ok since no one answered me about getting female roles <_< i will get the two of them (small ozy millie fans) to say something and see if you like the voices
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Postby MandoAndy » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:58 pm

Sorry Ranma-Chan, I did read that where you said you might have found voices, I just forgot to respond. Thanks!! I'd love to hear them! :)

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Postby DesertFoxCat » Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:42 pm

Just a little request here:

Can someone help me find a few strips where Millie is talking about free speech (preferebly to Ms. Sorkowitz, but not necessary)? I need to see how she talks about it for a little bit of script I'm writing.

Oh, and the script I'm writing is based on the whole "P.E.-meet-Stephan-football" arc, just in case anyone's interested.

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Postby Ranma-chan » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:07 pm

ok i will try to get them as soon as i can. just depends when she is on break at the same time as me.
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Postby Rymn_the_Silver_Wolfe » Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:47 am

This sounds like a great project. I've been catching up with what all has been going on, but I might have missed some stuff (living in the middle of nowhere makes an internet connection really, really slow, lol).

I would love to devote the time I have free to a project as noble and honorable as this one. While I don't have the drawing skills nescessary or the flash software, I do have all the time in the world for reading through scripts and editing them for gramatical errors and such (it helps when your dad was your english teacher in high school).

I'd love to give a try at voice acting as well. Once again, living in the middle of nowhere give one an ample amount of time for projects.

Let me know what I can do to help out.
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Postby FerretParade » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:11 am

I bet my middle of no where is bigger than yours!

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Postby Liberal Cynic » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:45 am

I bet my middle of no where is bigger than yours!
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Postby Moddex » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:17 pm

Sounds good to me, an editor? Hmm... *Looks devious*
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Postby Rooster » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:41 pm

I someone could give me a site that allows me to upload Mp3s for y'all to hear then let me know and I'll try out for one of the parts left...if there are any.

Also, if you need any Foley* work done, let me know. That's my area of expertise.

*recording sound effects in a studio.

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Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:59 pm

Nice to hear you like my cousin's rendition of Timulty. As his mom got him into the car to go home, I realized that she might be a decent voice for Ms. Mudd if nobody else can be found. But I dunno if she'd have the time to do the recording. It'd depend on how big of a role she needs to have.


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